To think that fucking cartoons on cereal boxes aren't what's making children overweight and parents just need to say no to their kids?

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Ffs, what are they going to do next, get rid of all sweets and chocolate in case the kids pester their parents?

A lot of it is portion sizes too. I didn't have the best diet growing up but it Woolf be one slice of pizza with some chips. Not children are having whole pizzas to themselves.

I know a child who had a safeguarding referral for his weight but the mum said his weight is fine and she didn't need any help so that was it case closed. (5 year old weight 6.5stone).

It doesn't do any harm, so why not do it? It can only help.

A whole free range chicken was £4 and will feed a family for a few days after today with the leftovers!

Don't be daft!

My kids dont come shopping with me there food choices are mine except my 19 year old who is overweight but doesnt live here 40 weeks of the year

I have never seen one of the '1 chicken will feed a family of 4 for days' posters on here, pleased to have seen one! Like train spotting, I can cross off list

A list may now be provided culminating on day 5 with soup, if I've understood correctly how this works.

That old chestnut! Pmsl, how big is the chicken and how big is the family? I'd be amazed at free range for £4 big enough for a few days of meals, even Aldi isn't that cheap.

Besides, you're making a false equivalency OP. No-one is getting rid of the cereals, just not targeting the crap ones at kids, which is cynical marketing at its finest.

I think it's more down to the ridiculous amount of sugar that's in everything.
I do wonder how much better it could be if they reduced the sugar in most things by just a little. I imagine most people wouldn't even notice the difference.
Still, I dont like to judge. I've always been someone who can eat whatever and not gain very much (I'm not skinny but I dont tend to get 'fat') whereas some people I know eat much better than me and are still bigger. So some of it is just down to how you are.

We had a chicken for dinner between two adults and two primary aged dc. There is enough left for DH and I to have some for lunch tomorrow. I suppose I could also have got enough for a soup too definitely couldn't make it last a few days main meals!

People have just completely lost sight of what a normal portion size is, and what size children should be.
So many parents say- yes she eats a lot, but she's so tall for her age...she's tall because you've overfed her from birth!
Girls are having their menarche at 8 and 9, mainly down to their increased height/weight from average 9yo 40 years ago.

DD has 2 friends (girls) who are very overweight. Both parents don’t care, in different ways.
One said to me her weight was her issue (her DD) and she can always lose weight when she was older (she was 7 at the time). Her diet is dreadful, there is no control over anything she eats.
The other can’t see her DD is anything but perfect.

Both of them eat takeaways/McDs very very regularly.

They got weighed in school recently so I’m sure they’ve had letters telling me them they were overweight.

Okay. To all the PPs saying that people are fat because they are poor... Sorry to be that person, but I bought some food for a roast dinner from Aldi earlier. A whole free range chicken was £4 and will feed a family for a few days after today with the leftovers!

But you had the means to get to Aldi and the means to then cook that chicken with the side dishes as well as the means to store the leftovers and knowledge of what to do with them.

Not everyone has access to cheap food. First and foremost you need an Aldi (or a Lidl or other discount supermarket) near to you, preferably walking distance as buses are expensive - for example, where I live it will cost £6.80 return for an adult ticket to go to Aldi. Then some people don't have enough money on the electricity/gas meter to run the oven for long enough to cook a chicken or to keep the fridge on to store the leftovers. They may lack the knowledge of what to do with the leftovers and then theres the fuel needed to cook whatever those meals are. It's not just about being poor, its about the lack of opportunities associated with it. When you factor in the bus fare to and from Aldi your £4 chicken is a £10 chicken and that's with no other ingredients, just the chicken. Whereas the corner shop has a small freezer with 10" pizzas at two for £1 and a huge bag of chips for £2...

Pester power is definitely a thing re cereal. I used to stock shelves in the cereal aisle while in uni and saw it a lot. BUT it was more along the lines of 'No, I'm not buying you that just because it's got a free x,y or z, because you won't eat the cereal and it will go to waste.' Unless they are only taking the characters off the less healthy cereal and leaving it on the healthier stuff.

ha! Famous MN chicken. A 2kg chicken does two meals for this family of four- one roast dinner, one casserole or chicken pie the next day.

1 x medium chicken = 1 meal for my family of five. My cats have the leftover meat on the back so it’s not wasted.

Ihatesundays unfortunately the letters don't work. Believe me, I send out hundreds. In response we might get one or two parents who ask for support, a few more complaining and I suspect the rest go in the bin or are posted on social media stating what a waste of nhs money it is.

I acknowledge that data but not all fat people are poor and the sooner we acknowledge that, the better.

But such all-nothing links are not the outcomes of such evidence. There is strong evidence of links between smoking and lung cancer for example but nobody has posited that all smokers will get lung cancer or that all lung cancer sufferers smoke. Data and evidence are nuanced and nuanced to huge degrees to arrive at a realistic conclusion, which applies at a population level, and may or may not play out for Freddie or Nora, which on its own does nothing to undermine the thesis at all. There is unquestionable evidence that poverty, ill health, obesity and public policy are intricately linked. This has nothing to do with what Emily’s weight and income are or what John’s is. So if 1000 people come on here to point out the general consensus on links between poverty and obesity in response to the OP’s generic post on patterns of food purchase - then those 1000 people are hardly mistaken.

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I’m so glad the famous forever feeding chicken has been mentioned. Hahaahhaa . Sure if you feeding sparrows it will feed 4 adults then have left overs that last for days . It’s the Magic porridge pot like qualities I’m so envious of.

I agree Hoik. Also I have misgivings about the nutritional value of a £4 chicken.

No way you got a whole free range chicken for £4.

And I see someone has tried to educate me on the differences between correlation and causation. Oh dear god. I wish I could discuss my profession here! nonetheless, quite so : I do not all think the two are the same. If I did the first thing that would happen is that I would be fired from my job!

It’s bollocks that it costs more to eat healthily.

I was absolutely skint 10 yrs ago and had three kids.

So much cheaper to cook everything from scratch.

I think the way some people think a chicken will last several meals, (and others don't) does highlight that people have very different ideas of portion sizes.
I also cooked roast chicken today, about 1.4 kg, cost less than £5.
I have earmarked the leftovers for 2 more meals for my family of 4.

Point is, I never serve big portions of meat, the main thing will be the potatoes and veg - or in the future meals the rice/pasta and veg.

I think that's quite an old fashioned way of cooking now. Of course, it isn't necessarily cheaper now, fresh vegetables can be expensive. My grandparents used to grow all their own.

Or else people aren't very good at stripping the meat from a chicken - I genuinely get loads!

That's only 3 meals.

Aim higher!

Thank god @Hoik at least understands that many of the issues of food poverty are not directly to do with the price of the food item itself.