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AIBU?

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To think this is worrying step forward?

87 replies

User182756 · 04/01/2020 10:02

A teacher has been struck off for being filmed by a student while drunk in public half naked. The video was then posted online. He also abused a paramedic.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/scotland-teacher-fired-underwear-video-pupil-police-facebook-a9267896.html

I'm not the type to get naked and drunk but AIBU to think it is worrying that he hasn't just lost his job but been barred from the profession?

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BillHadersNewWife · 04/01/2020 13:01

Redlocks I think we can safely assume he wasn't on a beach. And if his pupils were startled/amused enough to take video...well then his behaviour was incongruous/dangerous/illegal.

If they'd shot footage of their teacher enjoying a beer on a beach in his swimming shorts then THEY'D be the ones in trouble.

PristineCondition · 04/01/2020 13:03

Fhstchuu sorry posted too soon

The teacher thing is a red herring
This

He was doing illegal things and abusing frontline staff.

slashlover · 04/01/2020 13:04

It's not about the video.

The man assaulted a paramedic and then failed to tell his employer that he had been charged. The video thing just makes for an amusing headline.

Foxyloxy1plus1 · 04/01/2020 13:14

He was clearly wrong and obviously has a problem with alcohol, which would be of concern and preclude him from teaching anyway.

I also think that the student concerned was wrong to video the incident.

cricketballs3 · 04/01/2020 13:16

Whilst in this case it was appropriate I understand the OPs concerns.

I did read a few years ago where a party of primary teachers had photos put online from a 'normal' night out and there was uproar from a group of parents that these teachers were seen to be drinking and demanding they be sacked - that was far more concerning

Mushypeasandchipstogo · 04/01/2020 13:51

YABU. He absolutely deserves everything he gets and I am speaking as an ex teacher. Would you really be comfortable if he ever got to teach a child of yours?

Sparklybaublefest · 04/01/2020 14:00

He was arrested wasnt he?
and failed to inform the school, he would have failed his DBS, that in itself is a sackable offence

housemdwaswrong · 04/01/2020 14:30

I teach, I've been off the clock south a private life over the break. I've been drunk whilst I have played card games/ ping pong shooting games with friends, I've been merry whilst out for a curry, and I've watched films with questionable content because I couldn't be bothered to turn them off.

What I haven't done is drink bottle of Tia maria on a local bench, flung cards at people walking by, and decided to get my boobs out for all to laugh at. That's the difference, albeit that's an exaggerated example. No one gives a toss what you get up to indoors, it's your business. When you are stupid enough to do this publicly, with all the warnings in staff briefings and union advice about social media etc., then you are breaking your code of conduct, thus making you sackable for bringing the profession into disrepute as it would have been termed a few years ago.

It worries me that someone who thinks that this is okay after a few drinks, is tasked with influencing and advising young people all day every day. Doesn't sit quite right.

User182756 · 05/01/2020 22:09

Thank you so much to pp for replying. I was only interested in opening a debate on the extent to which private lives should affect jobs and if so, if there are certain jobs where you are 'never truly off the clock'.

Just for clarity's sake, as I said up thread, I think he got everything he deserved. I'm a teacher - I don't do anything like that and I also watch my online presence carefully so it doesn't affect my career - not that I do anything illegal.

As a pp mentioned, there was an incident a few years ago about a normal night out where teachers were photographed, the photos were attached to the school railings and parents demanded people were sacked.

And yes, I do realise that this situation was different as he assaulted a paramedic and I'll repeat...he deserved what he got. But I thought it was worth discussing Smile

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lottiegarbanzo · 06/01/2020 10:23

Then I think you needed to compose your question better. Sorry!

MissB83 · 06/01/2020 18:52

I am a barrister and would probably be struck off for similar conduct. I don't see the problem. People should be able to have confidence in professional people that they will behave properly, I don't think it's right to bring your profession into disrepute.

MissB83 · 06/01/2020 18:54

I should say that I think with legal professionals we need to be perceived as upholding the law of the land in our conduct, it's not good enough to be flouting the law particularly if you're dishonest. When it comes to a teacher the key question is, would you trust this person with a minor? I think not in this case.

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