Boycott Cypress as unsafe for holidays

[Gbtch]

Recent news reports make it clear to me that women are not safe to travel to Cypress. Rapists, however, seem to be protected there. AIBU to suggest that all women, and non-rapist men should avoid Cypress at all costs?

*added to my previous comment, the Cypriot people are no doubt just as concerned about the case as everyone else is, so punishing them by reducing tourism is plain spiteful.

Have you watched Unbelievable on Netflix? The police basically bullied an extremely vulnerable young woman , into admitting that she lied about her rape to gain attention.

Should nobody go to America anymore?

Hope your daughter never gets gang raped Monty. Just wow.

@PlanDeRaccordement From that article, Laura Hood acknowledges that she was never raped, i.e it was a false rape claim. Which is a crime and deserves punishment.

The girl in Cyprus is still insisting she was raped.

I haven’t seen the evidence in the case so can’t make a harebrained, emotive decision based on nothing.

A linguistics expert has said she is very unlikely to have composed the withdrawal statement herself
Also, we haven’t actually seen the rape evidence because it didn’t go to trial as she withdrew her complaint - at 1.30 am after an intensive interrogation
I’ve read everything I can find on the case and I believe her

I think that some of the YABU posters don't know the full story

Actually, none of us know the full story unless we were there (or have perhaps reviewed every legal detail) ... and somehow I doubt that all the boycott-mongers have done either

A woman was recently raped in our city centre. Should I flee my home and avoid my city at all costs?

If she's been arrested and tried for having the temerity 🤨 to report it ... yeah, you probably should.

"No reason to boycott the North"...

Are you on fucking glue?

Haha OMG yes everyone flock to Turkey where women’s rights are championed. FML.

I don't completely disagree with you OP. However, we really need to focus on getting our own house in order first. The UK is hardly a shining example itself when it comes to the handling of rape cases. The police, judiciary, media and even public opinion needs a fucking great big overhaul when it comes to rape and sexual assault.

Equanimitas Are you joking? “No reason the North should lose out” No, of course not, they only staged a violent invasion of a foreign country. No, no harm done there at all...

Have you not seen the various similar (though not involving as many men) in the UK? Plus the trial by media and destruction of the victim in court that occurs in e.g the Ched Evans victim, the Irish rugby players cases. The 46 year old man cleared of raping an 18 year old in London despite the fact his semen was found inside her because he 'fell on her and his penis may have fallen out of his pants' and his DNA and semen found inside her was 'probably on his hands'. And they're the ones that make the news. We do know less than 2% of reported rapes in England and Wales result in conviction and we also know most victims don't ever report.

In Spain you can be drugged/drunk and raped and it's only sexual assault (even when you're 14 and raped by several men) as their rape laws necessitate the use of violence or intimidation.

You'd have to boycott every country in the world including your own if you want to take a stand against rape victims being betrayed be the 'system'.

YABU to jump on the band wagon

what about ALL the other countries where female have less right than a dog and being raped means being prosecuted?
what about all the countries where homosexual are being mistreated if not murdered?
what about countries who allow child rape, female mutilation...

There might be a gross miscarriage of justice in Cyprus, but there are proven cases in many places. People are weirdly quiet about them, not trendy enough for you?

Just to remind the doubters ... the case was reported to the police on the advice of a doctor. Not this poor girl.

Do you honestly think she would make this up? Her word against 11 men? Why would you put yourself through it if it were false? As a slight aside, I'm an ex army brat and having lived in Cyprus when I was young can confidently say certainly amongst many (not all, for the benefit of any Not My Nigels reading !) of the young British forces men there is a serious problem with the rape culture in the party towns of Cyprus.

I'm on the fence about a boycott but honestly after reading all available info on this case her treatment by the authorities is highly fiucking suspect so I believe her.

So many similarities to the case of rapey piece of shit Ched Evans.

JosefKeller. That's just 'whataboutery', a common tactic to deflect from the issue being discussed.

Turnyourlightsdownlo

why? you think the other cases are not worth discussing because they don't involve a British tourist that you heard about?

There will be no boycott of Cyprus. Some people might chose another destination, they will be easily replaced. You just have to look around and see that it simply won't happen.

That's the problem with people being offended and outraged constantly these days. You simply can't take them seriously. Cyprus is trendy this week, and will quickly be forgotten. I am just laughing at the majority of posters who will not follow it up.

So what’s the solution then, JosefKeller ? What makes you so much better than the rest of us?

Yes, there are a many miscarriages of justice happening around the world on a daily basis, but why is the solution “there’s no point getting outraged”? Why are you “laughing at” people being upset by this case? That’s pretty fucked up.

Yes, this case is high profile; but I don’t think there’s anything “bandwagon jumping” about being upset about the way this young woman has been treated.

JosefKeller. It's your bringing in other completely unrelated issues such as FGM or persecution of gay people that makes it 'whataboutery'.

This is a thread about rape. 'Whataboutery' seeks to minimise the issue in hand and position the poster as a hypocrite only concerned with or publicly displaying their support of one issue as in your statement of 'jumping on the bandwagon' when you have no idea what the posters views are of the other issues that you brought up since, well, they're not connected with what is being discussed.

You then go on to further accuse them as a hypocrite or 'band wagon jumper' suggesting that those totally unrelated issues are not being discussed (false, they're not just relevant to this thread) because they're not 'trendy'. As if the discussion of rape of a woman or women is a 'trendy' subject which is an abhorrent view; and women can't possibly care about other subjects which actually, aren't what is being discussed here.

It's a very obvious tactic designed to discredit and shut down discussion.

Dyrne
I am not pretending to be better, I am just questioning the virtue signalling of some posters.

Turnyourlightsdownlo

this is not a thread about rape at all, I am still allowed to find the call to "all women and non-rapist men" completely ridiculous.

Cyprus happens to be trendy -there's no better word for it. If people were that bothered about the issue, why not quoting the known names of women currently prosecuted or suffering because they were proven victims of rape?

Their countries are fine for holidays apparently...yeah right.

FFS Cyprus isn’t “trendy”; it’s currently in the news because of a high profile case there. Other cases aren’t being discussed in this thread because the thread was started specifically about this latest news story.

What you’re doing is akin to going into a thread discussing Cancer and going “well what about Strokes? You obviously only care about Cancer because it’s trendy, you haven’t mentioned Strokes at all!!!”

They’re all important issues, however threads are started on individual topics to discuss.

@araiwa That made me laugh out loud at work, it's very quiet here today i look like a loon

Oh and a basic search will show hundreds of threads discussing FGM, persecution of homosexuals, and indeed many high profile rape cases and miscarriages of justice

@PlanDeRaccordement I think you’ve missed the point .
I believe OP is referring to the handling of it by the Cyprus police force