Wheelchair / buggy on bus

[MoonlightMistletoe]

Today I had got the bus with my sister we both have children I had my toddler who was walking and my one year old who's only just started to walk who is still in a buggy, my sister has a 12week old baby who was also in a buggy.

We had got on the bus as you do and the next stop another parent got on with their buggy, a few stops later we stop and straight away a woman is screaming/shouting at the rear doors with her phone in our faces demanding we collapse our buggies, very angry , shouting at us with buggies and also at the driver. The driver is telling us to stay put due to her being aggressive and recording us. Someone on the bus was telling us to co operate with the woman who wanted to get a person on the bus who was in a wheelchair. We know disabled people are a priority and had absolutely not said we wouldn't put the buggies down, I was taking my sleeping one year out the buggy while this woman was still swearing and being nasty and recording us, I had given my baby to my sister to sit with my toddler and herself while I was about to take her baby out the pram then all of a sudden everyone made a "ohhhhhhh" gasp and the disabled man has fallen down the side of the curb and bus sideways in his wheelchair.

She then looses her absolute shit at us for her own mistakes being so caught up in recording us to make sure we move that the man is now probably injured.

AIBU to think all she had to do was say excuse me can we move the buggies so I can get the wheelchair on?

MintyMabel

I am not treating “disabled people with disdain”. If I am treating you with disdain (and I don’t think I did so until you were rude to me) it’s because I find you rude and aggressive. All I have actually asked you to do is show me where you found information which you claim demonstrates my memories are “bollocks”.

Mummyoflittledragon

I do see the problem. You shouldn’t, as a new parent with a dependent child, be also dependent on a stranger. If you don’t agree, that’s okay. Hand your babies over to who you like.

Why should I make your argument for you?

Who asked you to do that?

You want to pretend your memory is better than 25 year old legislation?Goright ahead. In the words of my old school teacher, it’s only yourself you are fooling.

Church just Google it. Took less than 30 seconds to verify the facts. Enlighten yourself by doing tne same.

MintyMabel

I am not pretending anything. I asked you for a link, that’s all. And you were rude about it. Oh well.

my2bundles

Erm...no. If another poster wants to tell me what I remember is “bollocks”, she can provide actual evidence or be dismissed.

I’m always happy to get off if a wheelchair user needs the space, and do it automatically. But I rarely encounter them where I am so it does seem abit unfair to say I should fold my pram every time I go on a bus when I last encounter a wheelchair user needing the bus 6 months ago. There is a woman near me who brings her mobility scooter onto the bus, it surprised me as I didn’t know they were allowed on buses, are they classed the same as wheelchairs??

Ready to get flammed but I would make space but wouldnt get off the bus no way!

Be dismissed 😂oh dear who on earth do u think you are 😂😂😂😂sorry that's hilarious.

my2bundles

I don’t think I’m anybody other than a person who doesn’t have to google shit for other people.

Churchandstate
Well if you’re not prepared to do that then you have to be prepared to get off. 🤷‍♀️

Mummyoflittledragon

Which I am. That doesn’t mean it isn’t an issue. I’m not going to hand my helpless newborn baby over to total strangers, but that doesn’t mean it’s also not a problem that I am then forced to get off and walk.

It’s true it can be hard to get on a bus and must feel awful if you’re in a wheelchair and dependent on others moving.

Most likely I can’t catch a certain bus with a pram as it’s usually full with two prams. I avoid doing this now.

Poor man, it was someone else yelling on his behalf though, not him.

As for pp and charging extra £. No way I’d rather just get off and wait or walk.

It's not for other people. We already know what it says. Your the one who dosent.

my2bundles

I know what I remember, which is what is being declared “bollocks”. My advice to that unpleasant poster is to prove it or leave me alone. I’m not going to prove it for her.

@churchandstate this is how the UK works.

Strangers help you and you help strangers. Whether this is using public transport or other activities.

And yes with a small child and/or a disability you are dependant on strangers more than normal.

ColaFreezePop

It is not “how the UK works”. What a ridiculous statement. I have never in my life seen a person board a train or bus and ask a stranger to hold their baby. Stop making shit up.

Yes op what happened to the man?

I don't see how the poster is being unpleasant. Plus I'm sure I was the first poster to question you on what you remember. Wheelchair spaces came before buggy spaces, that's an absolute fact.

my2bundles

If it is an absolute fact, prove it. Otherwise to me, it’s not an absolute fact. I’m not saying you are factually incorrect, I am saying I remember things differently.

Bullshit @churchandstate. Many people have held my baby on trains when she was tiny and I was trying to juggle a toddler, folding pushchair and suitcase (well before I was a wheelchair user obviously). You keep stating things as fact that just aren’t true.

Back on the late 90s and before we definitely did ask strangers to help us board buses with our buggies and babit's. People still do it today amazingly enough. And yes I live in the uk.

gingersausage

No, it is not bullshit that I have never seen this. It is absolutely 100% fact. Stop telling me what I have seen or not seen.

my2bundles

I believe you. Funnily enough, I did not say you have never done it. I said I have never seen anybody doing it, hence my argument that this isn’t just “how we do things here”. In some places, perhaps that’s normal. Where I am from and any place I have ever caught a bus, it hasn’t happened.

Just Google it. It literally takes 30 seconds. I'm not going to do a link because the info is so easy to find a 6 year could do it.