to ask again about what's going on with viruses?

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So I commented this on another thread but it's kind of freaky and I'd really like to know if anyone knows more!

So I've been in the hospital with my DD this afternoon as she's not so well. The nurse practitioner told us that there has been a change in what they've seen with viruses this year. She said it's a new development that they are seeing more children through their doors unwell with multiple viruses at a time and that the viruses are increasingly resistant to high temperatures. I didn't ask about this she just told us. She seemed concerned about it and now I am too.

I've been googling to find out more but without any success. Has anyone else heard this? Can you shed any light?

Thanks!

Antibiotics stop working or don’t work for new/certain types of viruses and we have to build up our immune system to it all over again so it gets stronger as it spreads
Poor hygiene
People not staying home from work/school until they’re well again
Vaccinations
Friend is a gp and predicts it every year, we’re just not generally a healthy country imo

Antibiotics do not work on viruses @milsplus3

I don’t think antibiotics have ever worked for viruses. Something to do with their action being on bacteria.
It’s winter, there’s lots of viruses going round. Happens every year

@Milsplus3, antibiotics have never worked for viruses. They are used to kill bacterial infections not viruses

Sounds like a funny sort of thing for a nurse to day

To say. Not to day. That would be nonsensical

But bacterial infections often result from viruses - eg pneumonia from what was just a cold. So antibiotic resistance is relevant.

And forgive me if I’m wrong but I think vaccinations reduce infections. Kind of the point of them

@milsplus3 antibiotics don't work for viruses at all. They are for bacterial infections. And vaccinations decrease the number of viral infections

@NegroniOnIce agree, quite a strange thing to say. I didn't ask. She just offered this.

I think there will be a superbug which decimates at some point in the future - I don’t see how it can be avoided. Not much point in worrying about it though.

Probably more people taking their children to the doctors. Added awareness makes parents more likely to get stuff checked out rather than just medicate at home.

We'll just have to get a super phage !

It's just a nurse talking nonsense!

Viruses are just doing what they’ve always done I would think; evolving, new ones popping up etc.

Don’t forget modern medicine (antibiotics, vaccines, hygiene practices) are barely a blip in the timeline of humanity and the advances that have been made within the last 100 years have been incredible in speed and achievements. I think we’re just not as used to severe illnesses that very little can be done about as our grandparents probably were.

Conspiracy alternative - the melting polar caps are releasing deadly viruses from the Jurassic era and a zombie apocalypse is on the horizon.

I would not worry. It’s just one nurse, in one hospital. It is probably just that locality’s turn to have a bit of an outbreak. I highly doubt that there is a nation or global wide increase in viral infections.

@Cornettoninja well that conspiracy alternative is what I feared!

Your GP friend isn’t some kind of seer, Milplus3, it is common knowledge that as a population we experience more viral epidemics in cold weather, ‘flu season’, norovirus etc. Hospitals have suffered for years from ‘winter pressures’ with seasonal illnesses a major contributing factor.

@Mustbetimeforachange possibly!

My dd was in hospital with Bronchiolitis. She was very ill with it in high dependency for 5 days. The nurses said it is very common and happens every year, but this year it seemed really bad- she blamed the mild weather 🤷🏼‍♀️

@FredaFrogspawn I think experts agree with you. We’re long over due a flu epidemic.

The last one was 1918 and killed millions.

Ds has been in hospital three times in 4 months with different viruses. He's not immuno supressed, asthmatic or anything else. We couldn't get his temp down below 39.5 each time. The staff have said they have never seen such an influx like this year where they're struggling to treat whatever the viruses are as they're (fevers) just not breaking and they're concerned it needs to be seen more as a national health crisis. DS's recent fever just took 9 days to break and he's still poorly now, hovering around 37.9° when he usualpy runs at 36.7. He's thankfully just not still 40-41°c poorly.

@Cryingoverspilttea Sorry your DS has been so poorly. That really does sound like the phenomenon the nurse was describing to me.

I only have anecdotal stuff, but I haven’t been as ill as I have been this year in adulthood - I took a full week off work which is unheard of for me.

My younger boy was hospitalised with wheezing, the older had to go to A&E on Xmas Eve and he’s still bad. We’ve all had fevers of nearly 40 and coughs like old smokers.

Whatever is going round it’s truly nasty.

Wow some people need to chill I was talking about Illness in general not viruses alone, and the lack of vaccinating causing it to continue not by having them, added in my friend mentioning illnesses increasing to reassure OP it’s normal for it to happen this time of year, sorry I’ll explain myself fully in the queens proper english next time