AIBU to think its not acceptable for a homeless woman to have to give birth on the street.

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Homeless woman gives birth to premature twins on a cold street outside Cambridge University college
www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/homeless-woman-birth-premature-twins-17471458

Sio good is our system people fliock from around the globe. Ambulance comes almost right away, no cahrge to her, she is taken to a hsopital, deos not have to produce a credit card and is treated without any charges levied after - this is one of the best countries on the planet for someone to go into Labour whilst they are on the street. (And i was commuting into Longon at almost 40 weeks pregant with twins and still at work - yes they were unusually born at 40 weeks on the dot, not early so I could also have gone into labour whilst out on the street).

Lol at someone who apparently voted for the party of boris watermelon picanninny bum boys letterbox johnson getting all pearl clutchy at the terms ‘3rd world’ or ‘developing country’

Not sure why you would make the assumption that I voted Tory? I spoiled my ballot in actual fact. I am usually a Labour voter but the misogyny and anti-Semitism plus the Momentum takeover and the shouting down of any reasonable voices in debate meant that I could not. The misogyny was the main one though. The current Left hates women which makes this particular debate rather ironic imo.

@Fraggling you DEMAND I back myself up. 🤣. Of course you do.

I don't know where you got these figures from

I got them from a Cambridge City Council report. They’re on page 2 - I was mistaken, there are six beds for women.

www.cambridge.gov.uk/media/1383/severe-weather-emergency-provision-guidance.pdf

In my work I have dealt with women who have no recourse to public funds due to their immigration status. The NHS will not refuse care or ask for upfront payment, but as for no charges being levied later, don't make me laugh Average debt for maternity care I have come across is £11k.

The aggressive Corbynistas on this thread should take a moment to reflect and maybe they will understand that people turned away from the Left in droves because of the reasons I have.

Had the Left been on any way a decent opposition then Boris would not be PM.

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Was it Tony Blair said that this was the end of boom and bust economies

No, it was Brown and they did it pretty well until the US fucked up the global economy.

Although I feel sad that this has happened, I do feel the lady could have used the services available. To protect her babies, she should have phoned 999 and asked for help? There are also a range of homeless services and charities in the Cambridge area who I am sure would have offered help and support to a heavily pregnant lady. Perhaps there is more to this story than at first seems. My thoughts go out to the Mum and the little ones. I hope they are now warm and safe and are supported.

alsohuman Ah yes, this is for the SWEP provision. I'm not being rude btw! Just was worried there were some unreliable figures out there. There are also church bad weather places which tend to be full too.

More laughing?

I'll take it that you realise that your assertion that the Labour govt could have and should have averted the global banking crisis as 'The Labour Party were in charge of the country and could have regulated the banks' is rather silly then and you don't actually know much about a. The regulatory background in the UK b. The specifics around regulation in place at that time c. The enormous challenges around refusing such a vast and complex set of entities and d. The impact of the fact that actions outside the UK impacted on us.

The FSA had failings for sure, for you to lay the whole thing worldwide at the feet of one countries govt is way OTT though.

I also don't know why you think the Labour govt failed where conservative would presumably not, they are in favour of less regulation, not more.

'No, it was Brown and they did it pretty well until the US fucked up the global economy.'

Hold on a minute! Ruby said it was the fault of the Labour party. Won't expand on it but still, that's a fact apparently.

Lakielady Thankyou - it's a totally hidden deprivation. My school has a foodbank, washing machines and emergency fund. Nearly all the farmwork is 0 hours and requires transport. There is no public transport. The kids come in exhausted as they are at childminders from 5am. These are parents that WORK and still can't feed their kids. It's heartbreaking.

What childminders are open from 5am?

I walk past a nursery every day on my way to work which advertises itself as providing 24-hour cover.

Wow. I have never heard of childminders starting at 5am and I have worked in some very deprived areas over the years.

Yes actually I have seen one too. I completely forgot. Apologies.

That’s no bad thing everything given that not everyone has a 9-5 job

However, the stress and the angst I have been through trying to find somewhere to take my kids from 730 to start work at 8 ... I would LOVE to find a childminder who starts at 5am.

Not saying it's a bad thing, and I don't work 9-5 myself, just an observation that such things do exist.

Nurseries may, especially near hospitals. Googling now.

Most of the childminders here offer 5am starts and overnight stays as so many parents work shifts. They have to in a rural economy - it's how people work. In cities it is harder. I struggled tofind a 6am start when Iwas teaching in Hackney.

Hmmm

Not everything is on bloody google Ostrichfeather. My childminder doesn't even have email and only has a landline yet she has a successful rural business. She took my kids from 6am but also took from 5am. She has to - the farms here are massive, not on public transport, and the employees rely on minibus pick up at set times. It's done via word of mouth, school recommendations, facebook and farm recommendations here. Rural life is quite different.

Yes, I am aware - I live quite close to you. I’m still sceptical about the 5am childminders who aren’t on google.

Sorry, just realised you are not doubting me - just looking!