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To think the people who build new housing estates are on crack?

126 replies

NotYourHun · 22/12/2019 19:32

What was wrong with roads in straight lines? And why does everyone need their own designated parking spaces with no thought for visitors? And how long does it take to include a postcode or area on bloody mapping software?!

I do community visits as a healthcare professional and am sick of not being able to find addresses because they make no sense whatsoever or aren’t on a map (including google maps/satnav), finding postcodes just show up in the middle of a field, and when I eventually do find a house, finding that there is absolutely no on street parking to be found and either having to park ‘illegally’ or walk for miles with heavy equipment.

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zasknbg · 22/12/2019 19:37

They are not on crack. They are greedy buggers looking to maximise their money and screw anyone who has to live there/visit there. They absolutely give no shits about anything but money.

ohwheniknow · 22/12/2019 19:39

Don't forget the pavements that are too narrow for wheelchairs or prams.

megletthesecond · 22/12/2019 19:41

Yanbu.
There aren't enough parking spaces, and the paths and roads are too narrow.

NotYourHun · 22/12/2019 19:41

Ah yes! Pavements! A lot don’t even seem to have them! So the expectation is that you drive everywhere but no one can visit you?

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Michaelbaubles · 22/12/2019 19:42

Every time I walk round a new estate - in some cases, still being built new! - I hate to see the the cars are just littered everywhere. Hanging off pavements, crammed on to every inch of street...it’s so ugly. If you don’t give houses enough parking then the cars have to go somewhere, especially when every estate is in the outskirts of town with no public transport.

zasknbg · 22/12/2019 19:42

Get as many properties in as they can. By curling the roads, half the people have tiny weird triangular gardens and that space is freed up for more houses. Greed greed and more greed.

CalleighDoodle · 22/12/2019 19:43

Yes it is pure greed.

LakieLady · 22/12/2019 19:45

I think winding roads on estates are intended to slow down traffic.

Agree about mapping software. I was 20 minutes late for an appointment on Thursday, because a new housing estate had been built across the middle of the long road I was going to, cutting it in half. At one point, I could see the building I was going to, but the entrance to the site from that side had locked gates, as the entrance is no longer in use.

I was driving round for 30 minutes and at no point was I more than a quarter of a mile from where I was supposed to be.

littlepaddypaws · 22/12/2019 19:45

i live near one which has expanded over 20 years, houses
all crammed into small areas, expensive but it's like lego land, i would'ntwantto walkout of my front door and nearly into my neighbours opposite, hardly any green space and over looked by so many windows it's not real.

BentNeckLady · 22/12/2019 19:45

I’ve got a friend in Swindon who lives on an estate with no pavements at all and the roads the gardens and the parking spaces are tiny, coupled with the fact that the houses are 3 storey ‘townhouses’ on tiny footprints the whole estate made me feel completely hemmed in and depressed.

The only possible reason for a person designing such monstrosities is money but I could quite believe they were on crack too. Bloody awful.

ohwheniknow · 22/12/2019 19:46

Why is planning permission being granted to build estates inaccessible to people with disabilities?

Oldraver · 22/12/2019 19:50

A few years ago (well 18 odd) a new estate was built near to us and the planners wanted this utopia where cars were not seen, so all parking was in little car parks hidden at the back of houses, but only 1.5 per house. The expected people to mostly walk or cycle. there were only two entrances into the estate that took up a quarter of the town when finished, so it was sort of isolated.

Houses are mostly of the terraced variety that opened directly onto the pavement, and if you walked through on a weekend it was like a ghost town withno one to be seen.Cue years later and all the roads are heaving with parked cars and it's a nightmare to get through.

The latest developements have garages to the back of gardens with a drive down the side of the houses with space for at least three cars

BikeRunSki · 22/12/2019 19:51

And how long does it take to include a postcode or area on bloody mapping software?!

About 10 years in our case. We live in a cluster of 5 new houses across the end of 2 older streets. Our house was the show home, it never got registered for anything. Gas meter, postcode, wrong council tax banding.... we were the second owners, the first owners mostly loved overseas. I did all the legwork in getting the address register with the PO for their AddressPoint database (which a lot of mapping software uses). This was offset by getting 8 years of overpaid council tax repaid, and 6 years of gas bill refunded as it was being credited to a different meter, and they had no way of knowing what we’d actually used.

NotYourHun · 22/12/2019 19:57

@bikerunski That really doesn’t surprise me. A lot of the people I visit say they have lived in their homes for years without them actually existing on maps!

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PorridgeAgainAbney · 22/12/2019 19:58

Most of the new estates in our area are on flood plains or over networks of underground rivers. I went past one last week that had neighbouring fields flooded, one with a big sign half-submerged cheerfully proclaiming "Phase 2 coming soon!"

Twinklelikethechristmastree · 22/12/2019 19:58

I agree with another poster that they are greedy buggers. My friend recently bought a new house and I was so shocked how small it was compared to our 3 bedroom semi.!

millimollimandi · 22/12/2019 20:01

Oh definitely! In our local new estate the houses have drives - but they are so short even a Fiesta hangs over the pavement. No greenery at all - it is without doubt the slums of the future.

LionelRitchieStoleMyNotebook · 22/12/2019 20:03

No, I work with people who are actually on crack, some of the stuff they come out with make new build estates look perfectly logical.

Bargebill19 · 22/12/2019 20:04

How long for council to put the postcode in their database .... our house has existed for around ten years .... and STILL DOES NOT OFFICIALLY EXIST🤯

Iggleonkupsy · 22/12/2019 20:13

I have only ever been to ones where there is always 2 spaces per house so haven't experienced the same as you. Putting the postcode on a map is not to do with the builders!

bobstersmum · 22/12/2019 20:15

The ugliest type of new build estate are the bright red brick ones, just totally soulless.

coldwarenigma · 22/12/2019 20:16

The new builds opposite me are so small that the width is less than my front room in my 1950s built semi council house.

Now our road is getting clogged as each 'house' has 1 car park space with each one needing a minimum of 2 if not 3. A car for each adult plus work vans.

With the impending meltdown from climate change I would have thought that houses big enough for multigenerational living and gardens big enough to grow your own would be back in vogue...oh...silly me...building cheap lego houses for mega profit is more in vogue..

leavethelambsalone · 22/12/2019 20:18

horrible horrible places destroying the countryside

Echobelly · 22/12/2019 20:20

People are starting to get wise to the fact that estates need more interface with existing streets, but unfortunately too many places are still built as warrens with one entrance from a road and closed off from everywhere else.

BonnieSeptember · 22/12/2019 20:22

Our new build estate is nothing like the above descriptions (each house has 2 full size off rose parking spaces or 1 X space + garage, roads are normal width, some are windy but I always assumed that was a traffic calming measure, some gardens are big, some small, some in-between - depends on the lot you pruchase). I imagine it depends on the area. The estate we're on and surrounding estates were previously derelict and crumbling industrial units so houses are a better way to utilise the space.

No different to old rows of terraced houses with no drives and cars parked nose to tail either side with only enough room for one car to drive through the middle, they don't seem to attract the same outrage as new build properties 🤷