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To be dreading spending Christmas with the in-laws?!

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MegaMoolah · 19/12/2019 13:26

I know, I know these threads are being done to death lately but I’m really dreading spending Christmas with my in laws.

DH has 2 siblings, a lovely brother who unfortunately emigrated to NZ in March and this year is spending it with his new wife’s family over there. And then SIL, who in the 7 years since I’ve been with DH has never shown me an ounce of friendliness.

MIL is all sickly sweet and pretends to like me, but after a while the odd barbed comment will start to appear (DH did warn me about her when I first met him to be fair) MIL I just don’t trust and the nicey nice act doesn’t wash with me. You can tell by the time you’re mid 30’s when someone is fake, call it gut instinct. She’ll lavish me with really expensive presents too that make me feel really uncomfortable as I know they’re just ammunition for if it ever did kick off and she can then go all wide eyed and innocent and say ‘who, me?! Of course I’m a nice person/ like you, I lavish you with all those expensive gifts.’

SIL also buys me an expensive gift which I find just odd and uncomfortable as she’s never spoken more than a few words to me in the 7 years I’ve known her and has treated me with distinct disdain half the time. I suspect it’s actually MIL who buys it and just puts her name on it, I then have to make a big show of being SO grateful and saying thank you to someone who just sits there giving me evils, urgh.

FIL is a nice enough man but I don’t think he can really be bothered with the get togethers as he tends to just be grumpy and not really speak much. SIL is also his ‘princess’ and he makes a big thing of fawning and fussing over her (despite the fact she’s 32) and then beams round the room at everyone for agreement about how lovely she is and how proud of her he is and everyone duly nods along enthusiastically whilst I sit there wanting to puke.

Last year was fine as we hosted at ours for the first year and I had all my family there, it was on my territory so I didn’t get that usual feeling of intimidation and unease. This year though we’re having our new kitchen diner put in and the house is chaos at the moment. My family are going to my brother’s wife’s family as they all get on pretty well. FIL hasn’t been well this year so understandably he wants to spend it with his family.

Our families just do Christmas very different too, mine like to have a few drinks, we put music on and play games most of the evening etc. In laws just like to sit around nursing 1 or 2 glasses of wine the entire day, staring at each other and SIL’s kids. There is no adult conversation or games or anything. They literally sit in the living room for 7 hours just oohing and ahhhing over SIL and her children. If the conversation is turned around to any subject other than SIL’s children she’ll get stony faced and shout over whoever is talking and the turn the conversation back to her and her children. And people duly oblige! That’s why BIL is so good as although he’s never said anything bad about his sister (and I wouldn’t expect him to) I think he feels my plight and sympathises with it as he’ll often say ‘Sorry Mega, what were you saying?’ And re-start the conversation.

DH just doesn’t really notice anything, he also hates thinking bad of his family. His sister did pointedly ignore me in front of him though earlier this year and he finally admitted that no, she wasn’t ever that friendly towards me. He asked her if she had an issue with me and she apparently started crying saying that of course she doesn’t and she’s upset both him and I think that she does.

She reigned the scowling and dirty looks in a bit for a while and actually even attempted some conversation once, but all that was short lived and she’s now gone back to her usual self. I sent one of her DC a birthday present in the post not so long ago, which was blatantly from me as DH had already given the child a present from him, it’s just this child is obsessed with a certain kids tv show and I saw some bits related to it so thought I’d stick them in the post. I messaged SIL on said child’s birthday to wish her a happy birthday, nothing. Not even an acknowledgement of the text or a thank you for the present. In fact my last 2 texts have gone ignored and I just can’t be fucked anymore. DH says so long as she is civil towards me and says hello etc that’s all he can really ask of her, and I get that, but it just means that time spent in his family’s company is often not a very nice experience for me. I try and only see them now once or twice a year when I can’t avoid it, but even those times are just bleurgh.

I’ve never been anything but nice and polite to these people, I always take an interest in their lives etc and try and forge relationships for the sake of DH but I just feel like I’m having to be nice to people that don’t really like me and ordinarily I wouldn’t even entertain people if I thought they didn’t like me, I just wouldn’t have them in my life.

So this is just a vent really as I’m dreading Christmas this year and am hoping I may have some allies on here who are feeling the same!

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Piratelostatsea · 19/12/2019 14:00

They sound fucking awful!

Take some gin with you, and sneak off for a shot every so often, it's the only way you'll get through it!! Grin

HalyardHitch · 19/12/2019 14:05

I don't know if I'm making things too simple but couldn't you just not go? Sounds awful

HowlsMovingBungalow · 19/12/2019 14:10

Sounds like my SIL. I don't attend any family gatherings where she is attending anymore. DP can go when he chooses but understands I will not put up with the toxic sister.
Works for me.

Minderbinder · 19/12/2019 14:11

I realise that the economy would likely tank if we all bought less, but I've never understood why adults spend time buying each other Xmas presents.
Unless you personally believe in Santa, Xmas is for kids. Make a kid happy and let the adults look after themselves.

Minderbinder · 19/12/2019 14:12

Forgot to add:
Explain to your OH how this stuff makes you feel, and ask whether you're still obliged to go along. You might even get an answer you'd like!

KC225 · 19/12/2019 14:15

Another one who can't see why you are going, you clearly dislike them. You say the two times you meet a year 'bleughh'. Don't go.

Winterdaysarehere · 19/12/2019 14:16

Simply make the visit as short as possible.
As in request any dessert be served to go...
No need to be there all day imo...

Londongirl86 · 19/12/2019 14:20

Hi they sound awful. We all get on fine. This is the first year I'm having Christmas with my partner's family! It will be pleasent enough. The only thing is they have taken over food stuff. I'm doing a turkey. She's cooking beef because they prefer beef to bring. They used to go to their daughters every year and not bother with us but the bil fell out with fil and won't let him in the house. So my partner's mum goes around being a skivvy all year and then at christmas they drop them!

Families are so weird! I don't have any advice but maybe try start a new tradition next year? Get away from them abit. Other people's traditions do seem boring sometimes. My partner's parents don't drink but my family are drinkers. It will be nice for the kids though this year. the only other thing Is my partner's dad is old fashioned. Doesn't help with anything. Expects you to stop doing anything if he wants a cuppa. Always turns up too early. He's after being here for 9am! I'd rather they came at 10.30 so we could get showered and have breakfast and enjoy the kids opening gifts

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 19/12/2019 14:22

Could you not get a really horrible bout of D&V on Christmas eve?

Spend it curled up on the sofa watching movies (and drinking wine).

MegaMoolah · 19/12/2019 14:22

As weird as it sounds, MIL has already been screeching in DH’s ear the last year as she’s noticed I hardly see them all anymore, I know if I didn’t go for Christmas it would just cause a shitstorm and the afrermath of that would be more stressful than just going.

Staying for a few hours isn’t an option unfortunately as they all live 3 hours away. On the years we do Christmas Day with them, we always go up early Christmas Eve day and drive back early Boxing Day morning to then spend Boxing Day with my family.

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OoohTheStatsDontLie · 19/12/2019 14:24

Can you just go to your brothers wifes family? And your husband go to his family?

I think he needs to support you more on this actually, as it does sound as though she is actively rude to you rather than just civil- ignoring, talking over someone, not saying thanks for a present, is all outright rude. And crying when he asked her about it is manipulative and designed to shut the conversation down as she doesn't have any justification for her behaviour.

It sounds like she is the golden child so I dont think there is any point in him confronting her or them about it as they will turn against him. But he should support you in not going - it's not on he expects you to be treated horribly just to keep the peace. Even if he lies and says you're ill, just dont put yourself through it.

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 19/12/2019 14:25

Oops x posted

DarlingNikita · 19/12/2019 14:25

If the conversation is turned around to any subject other than SIL’s children she’ll get stony faced and shout over whoever is talking and the turn the conversation back to her and her children.
I just wouldn't be going.

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 19/12/2019 14:27

Otherwise take your own alcohol, get drunk, and call her out on every single thing. 'Oooh do that face again SiL, I want to take a picture!' 'Anyway as I was saying before you interrupted me SiL...'

Vulpine · 19/12/2019 14:36

You're pissed off with someone buying you nice presents? Just try to make the best of it. Its only a day. Bring your own booze. Inject some fun into the day

GingleJangleScarecrow · 19/12/2019 14:38

MIL has already been screeching in DH’s ear

Screeching - literally screeching?

Starlive23 · 19/12/2019 14:48

My god I could swear we are sharing the same MIL!! No, you are definitely not BU she sounds just awful. I also hate the nicey nicey act, makes me sick.

squashyhat · 19/12/2019 14:52

@Minderbinder
Christmas is for everyone who either believes in the religious significance or just needs a bit of cheering up midwinter. Get over yourself.

HollowTalk · 19/12/2019 14:53

Why put yourself through this?

Winterdaysarehere · 19/12/2019 15:01

Genuinely can't understand an adult sacrificing their Christmas for the sake of awful family!!
Deal with the aftermath of not going.
Better still let dh deal with it.
When do you get a Christmas you look forward to /enjoy?
Remind dh you married him not his family.
We are nc with our dps.
Bloody blissful 365 days of the year!

HowlsMovingBungalow · 19/12/2019 15:06

Tbh if your MIL/SIL is going to kick off for any reason that is down to your DP to deal with, it is his mother and sister.
You've put up with this shit for 7 years why waste anymore headspace on these people?
Just list your reasons to why you aren't going to DP and tell him he is free to visit his family as and when.
Wash your hands of it.

Bagofworries · 19/12/2019 15:09

Sounds shit for you all. They are light drinkers who bestow expensive gifts on you, only for you to eye them with suspicion and resent thanking them. Your FIL is derided for showing an interest in his grandchildren. You all sound tense as fuck and thoroughly miserable to be in each others company.
You sound like you want your fair share of attention while downing the drinks and playing games, they sound like they cant do right for doing wrong and they know it.
I imagine they feel completely uncomfortable in your company and are well aware they are being judged unkindly by you.
You dont like them, and probably wouldnt no matter what they did or said and you find them boring and OTT!
Save yourself and them a crap day and dont go!
Are they really screeching in DH's ear, or is it your DH who wants you to make the effort with his family?

fedup21 · 19/12/2019 15:10

MIL has already been screeching in DH’s ear

This isn’t normal at all.

What has she been screeching and doesn’t your DH tell her to stop?

ASatisfyingThump · 19/12/2019 15:10

I actually get the need to go or risk causing a massive problem in the family - DHs family are massively OTT at Christmas and I honestly would rather stay at home, but that would upset MIL and we can't ever have that Hmm if it wouldn't cause any problems with your DH then I'd just give it a swerve. No point being miserable if you can avoid it!

MegaMoolah · 19/12/2019 15:32

You’re all right, it would cause issues for DH as it would be him that got the crap.

The trouble is he is very close to his family, I’ve always known that. He has been hurt by me reducing the amount of time I spend with them/ see them. It means he goes for lots of weekends etc away on his own with them and I know he wishes he could share those moments with his wife. I’m not a complete doormat, which is why I’ve reduced contact/ seeing them. But FIL hasn’t been well this last year and I know he really wants me there this Christmas. I’m actually working Christmas Eve, he’s not so I’ve just texted him and said I think it’s easier if we just go in separate cars and he heads off earlier than me.

This now gives me an escape if I need it as I’m genuinely done with putting up with any rudeness from SIL. I’ll show willing and turn up, but any rudeness from her and I will just say I’m leaving and go. It’ll mean keeping to just the 1 glass of wine all day but that’s a small price to pay for an escape route.

@Bagofworries If I’m close to someone and we have a nice, loving relationship then of course I don’t mind if they buy me an extravagant gift, I’d return the favour. However, these people are never warm or friendly towards me, we aren’t close and so I just feel odd accepting an expensive gift from them. I’m not materialistic, I would much rather forgo the expensive gifts and have them actually just be NICE and FRIENDLY towards me. It’s like they feel like they can compensate for their shitty attitudes towards me by buying me a gift. Well no, they can’t.

When I first met them I had 0 expectations, I was warm and friendly (I still am) but it became very obvious after a few times of meeting them that they’re just a bit cliquey and the whole family revolves around SIL. I’m sorry, but they’re just not my cup of tea at all and yes, the feeling is probably mutual but at least I try and make an effort. MIL does but it’s like she can only bare to be nice to me for the first 30 mins and then she can let her guard down and the barbed comments start etc. And SIL from the moment I walk in the door gives me a dirty look and starts scowling and then it goes on from there. Nice to see you think I’m the problem though, cheers!

And for everyone saying just go completely NC with these people, I find that a v mumsnetty thing. I literally don’t know anyone IRL that is no contact with their ILs. I have a few friends who don’t particularly like their ILs and like me, try and avoid them as much as poss but even they will see them briefly over Christmas and will have the odd phone call/ text etc. I really don’t feel it’s that simple to cut an entire section of people, especially an entire set that are as special to a spouse out of my life so easily.

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