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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To do this alone?? **TW - Abuse Mentioned**

57 replies

WorldOfPhoebe · 17/12/2019 15:14

Note: I'm aware there was a thread created yesterday about somebody having found out about their pregnancy late and an unsupportive partner etc... just wanted to say that wasn't me. I'd actually commented on there in hopes of relating to somebody, but it looks like the thread is now long gone. (A bit gutted).

Sorry in advance for this being a long one, it's not something I've been able to discuss fully with anyone. Also changed a couple of details to make it less outing.

I escaped an incredibly abusive ExP earlier this year. A relationship that got progressively more controlling and abusive as time went on. By the end of it, I was a shell of the person I once was. I'd worked so hard to pick this person up and drag them out of this dark place, all whilst they broke me bit by bit.

I've never spoken openly about all of the abuse, but it was horrendous. He used coercive control, was emotionally abusive and incredibly manipulative. Isolated me from everybody who offered any support, whilst simultaneously making me feel horrible for even wanting these friendships/relationships with family members. He played games with my emotions, often reeling me in and then being brutal in rejection (not me being precious - It was cold and calculated, with the intention to hurt). He was financially abusive, wouldn't work put applied immense pressure for me to financially support us both. I was also expected to support an 'occasional' weed habit that was soon outed as a dependency, with horrible consequences for me if he ever wasn't able to get his fix. He'd spend money I hadn't even earned yet, throw us into debt and then blackmail me with the consequences of what would happen to him if he didn't pay up. (Just to be clear - not something I would ever offer to support or offer money towards, he just managed to control the situation and I'd be responsible for 'this person coming after him' unless I foot the bill). If he ever didn't get his fix, the consequences and environment for me were awful. I was scared and just mentally/emotionally left in tatters.

I got manipulated into practically living with him, with every instance of seeing friends/family/just visiting home being met with a stream of abuse and more manipulation. There was sexual abuse, stemming from his issues with jealousy. I was punished for having previous sexual partners, and my loyalty was questioned constantly. Things had just started to turn physical near the end, and that was when I knew I needed out.

It goes without saying - I'm mortified I stayed that long. I tried again and again to fix something that was poisonous. That man was absolutely evil, and I wholeheartedly wish I'd seen it when it was infront of me. I don't know where the strength came from, but I left and cut all contact. It was dramatic and 'fled' is probably a better word, but I escaped, albeit feeling like a very broken girl.

I've done the freedom program and had some counselling for the PTSD he left me with. I ultimately managed to rebuild my life, and regain some of the person I was before.

Now this is the part I need advice on..... I found out that I was expecting at 27 weeks. I had no idea, no symptoms, no indication... Nothing. It is 100% his. He currently has no idea that I'm pregnant, and my AIBU is whether or not I should keep it that way?

It was a major shock to say the least. I thought I'd escaped him, and then to find out this had me absolutely hysterical for an entire week (understatement). I can't even sit here and tell you that this baby was convinced consensually. I've very much put on a brave face - this is happening and I needed to step up and prepare to be the best mother I could possibly be. I'll give it my all, without question. Also worth noting that I have exceptional family support, so we'll make it work regardless.

But to me this man is evil. I truly thought I'd escaped. I don't feel like I can guarantee my safety with his involvement, and the thought of him having any sort of influence on a child also horrifies me. The involvement of this man or his family would automatically have social services involved. There are other little ones in the family (barely - they've very nearly been removed), and SS are heavily involved.

I'm feel vile for hiding this. I wanted the stereotype, the happily ever after etc... . But it's also my duty to protect this little one, so do I ignore the guilt and give myself a head wobble, and instead just focus on preparing for becoming a mother (baby not here yet, but very very soon).

So my AIBU is....
YABU - He should know.
YANBU - He shouldn't know (for safety/past history/for whatever reason you feel)

OP posts:
Bestronger · 17/12/2019 15:18

YANBU if it was me for my own safety

flirtygirl · 17/12/2019 15:19

No way should he know. You would be foolish to let him know. Men like this use the family courts to continue to harass the mother. This is well known. You would likely have little peace for the next 18 years.

I would not let him know. I would lie to protect the child. The child would have the truth explained at an appropriate age.

Also if you cave to societies norm of lets have every crap dad involved then make sure the child has your surname and that he is not on the birth certificate.

PettyContractor · 17/12/2019 15:19

Don't tell him, change your name, move to a completely different location.

flirtygirl · 17/12/2019 15:19

Yanbu

Blanca87 · 17/12/2019 15:23

100% don't tell him. There's your validation right there. 💖

DiaryofWimpyMumm · 17/12/2019 15:23

YADNBU Move if you have to

Kayjay2018 · 17/12/2019 15:24

@WorldOfPhoebe wow you are one strong women. Well done for recognising and leaving your relationship.

I'm currently 19 weeks pregnant (not with same circumstances) and can't imagine the shock at finding out you were pregnant so late, that's daunting in any situation .

If it were me I would not let him know about the baby at all. I have first hand seen the impact of a controlling relationship on me and his input into the parenting of a child in that relationship and so I think you need to look after yourself and your baby as priority.

And as for your happily ever after, I left that relationship with my DS (not his) and have subsequently met and married the most amazing man and we are now expecting a child together. There are some amazing men who make fantastic stepdads. You still have every chance of a happy ever after, it just might look slightly different than you imagined!

All the best with your soon to be arrival. One happy parent is so much more valuable than including an abusive one in the equation.

WorldOfPhoebe · 17/12/2019 15:26

Thanks for the quick responses. Just to be clear, I'm very much on the side of 'hide and protect at all costs' aswell.

I just wanted opinions. There are moments of immense guilt at the fact I'm hiding him (expecting a boy btw), but safety undoubtedly comes first.

He wouldn't ever go on the birth certificate, and he'll have my surname.

Was 99% sure I just needed a head wobble. Thanks for confirming.

OP posts:
iceymonkey · 17/12/2019 15:29

Hugs xx I am sorry you had to go through this.

I dont think you should tell him, no. But, could he find out? See you pregnant, or with the baby? Do you have friends in common, or does he live nearby?

I am sure your baby will be better off just with you. Good luck op x

Annafs · 17/12/2019 15:33

Imo the worst thing you could possibly do for your child is invite this evil into their lives. Keep his name 100% off the birth certificate and never allow him to hold that power over you or your little bub again. You did great to get out and now it’s not just you that you have to think about, but also your little one who does not deserve to be exposed to abuse or manipulation.

formerbabe · 17/12/2019 15:34

Don't tell him.

ohwheniknow · 17/12/2019 15:35

Protecting you and the baby is absolutely the right thing to do. If you tell him he will only use that information to spend the rest of your lives abusing the two of you.

The guilt you're feeling is a legacy of his abusive conditioning, possibly supplemented by your awareness that in a non-abusive situation you'd be safe to make a different choice and would do so.

I'm so sorry for everything you've been through and are going through. I can't even begin to imagine how much distress this must have caused you. Flowers

CanIHaveADrink · 17/12/2019 15:37

Please don’t tell him.
I wouod also be careful that he doesn’t learn you are pregnant by accident/seeing you in the street etc...

I can imagine this has been a shock and seeing that this baby wasn’t ‘created’ in a consensual way, I would also advise you to get some counselling around that. Let your MW know about it. And get as much support in RL as you can.

WorldOfPhoebe · 17/12/2019 15:39

@iceymonkey There's always that risk unfortunately (primarily that he could see me). I've been in stealth mode, being so careful to always have bump hidden when commuting and been incredibly careful regarding who knows.

He lives less than 20 minutes away, so that's incredibly scary. Thankfully, when I say baby will be here soon, I mean VERY soon. As time progresses the worry of him seeing him one day will hopefully decrease, as it'll be easier to lie about the age etc....

Regarding the friends - He'd pointedly avoid ever associating with mine during the relationship, and I'm sure I'd have been accused of sleeping with all of them if he ever dared introduce me to any of his. Lucky circumstances really.

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Poorolddaddypig · 17/12/2019 15:40

You’re doing the right thing and you sound very brave. I’d change you name if you can. Do you live in the same area as him still? If so probably best to move away, if you can. Good luck Flowers

Poorolddaddypig · 17/12/2019 15:41

Cross post - the distance is a little worrying. Do you have family anywhere else?

TimeIhadaNameChange · 17/12/2019 15:43

I've always believed that the man had the right to know a woman was pregnant, but you are the exception to this. No good can come of his knowing. Your baby has to be your priority - keep them and yourself safe.

Good luck.

ohwheniknow · 17/12/2019 15:46

If you haven't already I'd seriously consider closing all social media accounts that are in your actual name like Facebook. You're at much greater risk of he still that local to you, especially in the first twelve months after getting away from him, and being pregnant.

Would you feel able to talk to Women's Aid about safety planning?

ohwheniknow · 17/12/2019 15:50

And possibly the IDVA service? Has anyone done a DASH risk assessment with you or discussed whether your case should be discussed in MARAC to make sure you are as safe as possible?

notthemum · 17/12/2019 15:55

Please don't tell him. You know what he is like. You can't even consider inflicting that vile piece of crap on a child.
You can give the baby your surname, you do not have to name a father.
As for you. I hope you know how strong you are, how much courage you have and how proud of you that everyone on here is that you got out.
Well done. Good luck. Take care of yourself and bubba.
💐🍫

OneDay10 · 17/12/2019 15:56

I think you need to report or get this documented in some way. Have you made any such reports. What is his involvement with SS?
FWIW I believe you and well done for getting away, but if you havent made this formal in some way then he can easily come after you and say it's your word against his. And if you hid it from him it would make you look worse.
20 mins away, you could bump into him or anyone mutual. That's such a risk.

Butterflyflower1234 · 17/12/2019 15:57

Do not tell him OP, keep yourself and baby safe. Is there any possibility of you bumping into this man though when you have the baby? I would consider moving if possible and keep all references to baby off social media.

Stephminx · 17/12/2019 15:57

I’m so sorry youve been through this but you should be so proud you have survived it.

As a pp said, I’m usually very much in favour of fathers having rights for the benefit of the child and generally think that the few women who do abuse their “power” to withhold contact to punish ex partners are appalling and only end up punishing the children (and themselves in the end).

However in your case, good god, never tell him. Do what you can to keep this child safe and away from him. I cannot possibly see how having this man in your son’s life could benefit him (your son I mean).

You should seek out support and counselling. This may be useful not only in dealing with the here and now, but also future issues (maybe what you tell the little one about his dad etc).

Good luck and stay safe.

iceymonkey · 17/12/2019 16:11

@WorldOfPhoebe if he did find out, could you lie about who the father of the baby is or would that out you at risk, as in is he dangerous?

Wishing you lots of luck x

iceymonkey · 17/12/2019 16:12

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