Irish racism in England

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I am shocked. I am half English, half Irish. My Irish mum lived in England for a long time, gave birth to us children there with her English husband, and then moved back to Ireland.

The reason that she always gave me for returning to Ireland, was that, "she could not take the nastiness to her anymore". She described one incident of many to me: she went to my brother's primary teacher in England, and said that he had lost something, he must have been six at the time, and the teacher said to her , "sure what do you expect - he is half Irish".

I always thought of it in an abstract way, I never really understood what she meant. Until I spent quite a long time in the U.K this year.

I was absolutely shocked at the hatred and nastiness, and calling Irish people stupid.

How can it be possible? The U.K stole alot of Ireland's land, committed mass genocide during the famine, eradicated the Irish language,

And yet instead of apologising, many people are going around calling Irish people stupid.

Isn't it nearly unbelievable? It would be like a German going up to a Jew and calling them stupid. That it was their fault , thhat everything happened the way it did.

I am really shocked

Yy, @roisinagusniamh. Both my parents are pioneers. I doubt if between them they’ve been in a pub ten times in their lives. It often causes surprise in England.

I’m fully English....and I LOVE the Irish & Ireland! I’d move there if I could. Beautiful country, beautiful people!

You see sky, with respect, not all the Irish are lovely people.
Good and bad everywhere.
I agree we tend to be friendly and chatty at first which is very pleasant but doesn't necessary lead to friendship.

@DoTheHop you’re full of shit, honestly.

“We’ve solicitors in Ireland”. I am a solicitor and I can tell you that “lawyer” is a generic term covering both branches of the profession: solicitors and barristers.

God almighty.

piglet I think dothehop is what some people in Ireland would call a 'begrudger'.

Or what we in NI call “thran.”

You see, In Ireland, having worked in the legal profession, we have solicitors and barristers. Might be different in Northern Ireland. Please don't speak on behalf of Irish.

Mercifully, I've never heard 'thran' before and am surprised that a NI lawyer would have time to come on a parenting forum to call Irish people names (whatever it means).

I was born in England and my parents moved us to Northern Ireland when I was 12. In Northern Ireland I was spat on in school, ignored,bullied. Sat through an entire English language class where the teacher spent the whole time telling the class how stupid English people where from his time living in England. The 6 years of abuse massively impacted me. As soon as I turned 18 - moved back to England to go to University. Never looked back. I found people in Northern Ireland to be small
Minded and intolerant. Wouldn't want my kids growing up there.

I hope you're ok OP

I'm sure OP is doing fine. Wind them up and watch them go. They must be disappointed it's been mostly civil.

@DoTheHop

As it happens, I’m a Northern Irish person but English law qualified. And I know that in the Republic there are solicitors and barristers, just as there are in England and Northern Ireland. And I can tell you that Irish lawyers working in Dublin firms with whom I have worked definitely would call themselves lawyers. Are you a lawyer yourself?

Never heard “thran” before? Why “mercifully”? Northern Irish idiom not good enough for you, is it?

Pretty shocked at your Irish/Jewish comparison. I'm an Ulster Protestant who lived in England for about 15 years and would consider that I experienced huge prejudice, particularly during the troubles.

Do the hop you really dont like the english do you? Your racist undertones in your posts are quite nasty.

Also “please don’t speak on behalf of Irish”. Because people from Northern Ireland can’t identify as Irish, of course.

Queer can of worms you’ve opened there, @DoTheHop

@dothehop is really very ignorant and obnoxious.

@ethelfleda, we're not ''cooler'' well, not all of us!

But we are doing ok, and next to the the chaos in UK, I find the notion of racism towards an Irish person from an English person just so oiky and baseless. Why get offended. Anybody who looks down on the Irish is out of touch and deluded. I feel we are doing ok. I look at the Uk and I feel sorry for you guys.

PS that is not to dismiss or invalidate people's real experiences of the last 50 years or so. I just mean, it's a different world now.

Streamside you're disguisted at who regarding the Irish/jew comparison?

Do you realise not only were Irish people starved to death under English rule they had their lands removed and were not allowed to practice their catholic religion, speak their language or be educated.
I really hope I've got the wrong end of the stick and you're calling someone else out for denying this.

@DoTheHop most Irish solicitors would refer to themselves as lawyers these days, especially if they work in a large corporate firm. We work in a global market and the term solicitor would not be something that lawyers in other countries would be familiar with.

I love the Irish, loved travelling around Ireland (although we experienced some hatred towards us because of our English plated car). This did not spoil our trip one bit. We travelled with Irish people overseas and have made life long friends. However my BIL is Irish and quite rightfully a proud Irishman although he thinks it is perfectly acceptable to be derogatory towards English people and slate the country even though he has chosen to live here.
Funnily enough though....supports an English football club 🤔

I really don’t understand why people are coming on a thread about anti-Irish feeling in the UK to tell us they encountered anti-British feeling in Ireland. It’s the equivalent of choosing a thread about racism to share the fact that a black person once said something mean to you on the tube.

If it's "Ireland" and not "Eire" why does it say "Eire" on the stamps and coins? Serious question.

Because you are speaking English.

@Tubridy PMSL 5 words that they can't comprehend.

Same way we don't speak Gaelic. We speak Irish. In the Irish language, we speak Gaeilge.