If the Shadow Health Secretary has no confidence in Corybn how can we?

[Thegrinch2019]

He has been recorded saying Corbyn has no chance in getting in, a security risk and voters can’t stand him. A bit of a worry from one of his own cabinet

www.order-order.com/2019/12/10/ashworth-civil-service-machine-will-move-quickly-safeguard-national-security-corbyn/

Well then don’t vote Labour and good luck with your private health care and lack of police. No need to start yet another sad Torybot thread about it.

More Conservative Central Office sourced stuff.

Is this such a controversial post that the OP decided they had to name change?

I tell you what I am most fed up of - the lies and propaganda. I don't like either leader at all, but I despise the way the tories have been conducting this campaign, so on that basis I'm going to vote Labour. Thanks for starting this thread to help reinforce it in my mind.

YADNBU!

And for balance:
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/07/labour-leavers-tempted-vote-tory-10-reasons-think-again

The only confidence I need in Corbyn is the knowledge that he isn't Johnson. Not being Boris is a good enough reason to vote for him.

I don't know why people keep saying the voters can't stand him. Some BBC dude said the public likes him and crowds appear from nowhere when he's around. He seemed surprised. Or was that made up as well?

Oh do fuck off

As opposed to Boris whose own family members have no confidence in him?

So far MN has been littered with quite a few of these sorts of threads.

Wonder why?

Bots
Tory HQ

All sorts of horrors

Admit it folks. They are all shite, we are indeed, doomed!

The only confidence I need in Corbyn is the knowledge that he isn't Johnson. Not being Boris is a good enough reason to vote for him.

This

This couldn’t be more obviously propaganda from Tory HQ. I will be voting labour on Thursday along with all of my family and a large majority of my friends.

Ah, but others see lots of Labour / Momentum propoganda and will be voting Tory, as will their friends, family, neighbours!

We'll just have to put our own cross in a box and then wait and see!

We'll be fucked for a decade or ten whatever happens.

Tory sins enough to make me vote Labour.

This revelation comes, obviously, at a suspiciously opportune time for a PM on the back foot over his handling of events yesterday. But it doesn’t mean it isn’t true - and I’ll bet the vast majority of Labour MP’s agree that Corbyn is a total dud. Equally, whatever the provenance of the photo of the small boy receiving treatment on the floor, the health service IS in real trouble.

YABVVU. Even if Mr Corbyn were the worst person in the world (which he clearly isn't) he would be preferable to crashing out of the EU in just over a month's time, or a WTO Brexit in just over a year. Even a bare bones agreement on tariffs and quotas would cause a decades long depression and most businesses would have to relocate abroad or close. Think carefully before you vote Tory just because you don't like JC's Palestinian sympathies/ republican convictions/ beard/ whatever. He can be voted out in five years, a hard Brexit cannot.

Read the Wikipedia entry on Boris Johnson. I will be voting labour for the first time in 50 years, in this instance the Labour PPC appears to be well informed and impressed most at the hustings I visited.

Yes I have my doubts on JC but he has gradually made changes, for example it was clear at the Remembrance Ceremony that he had made the effort to look smart, unlike Boris who laid his wreath upside down. The fact that he isn't pushing his own views about Brexit means that he is prepared to listen.

And Matt Hancock said he wouldn't serve under a Johnson PM - and is now essentially a handmaiden.

And for whichever poster said there is an issue of provenance over the photo of the little boy on the hospital floor- please read what has been published by Yorkshire Post not a twitter hack.

Sorry misread your post recrudescence. Shouldn't read, type and eat. My apologies.

Obviously not a 'fake' recording then.

"Ashworth says he was trying to 'psych out' Tories when he said Labour would lose in private call."

"Jonathan Ashworth is now saying that when he told his Tory activist friend that Labour was bound to lose the general election (see 11.44am), he was actually just trying to “psych out” the opposition. He told the BBC’s Politics Live he was speaking to Greig Baker, a Tory activist and old friend who runs a political intelligence agency. Ashworth went on":

"He was ringing me. I was talking to him. He was saying his sources at CCHQ say Labour’s doing well. I’m doing the old, what Alex Ferguson would do, football manager kind of thing, trying to psych him out, saying: ‘No, you’re going to win, don’t worry about it,’ because I know he’s an activist in Canterbury, I’m trying to make him complacent."

"Obviously I look a plonker now. I was a smart Alec - too clever by half."

"You’re going to say: ‘Well, you said this about Jeremy, you said that about the Labour party.’ Well, I’m deliberately throwing the Tory attack lines back at him to say this is what we’re getting."

www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/dec/10/general-election-swinson-says-johnsons-rhetoric-puts-eu-citizens-at-risk-of-hate-crimes-live

Well he's not wrong is he.

Surely the OP meant to write 'If former Conservative ministers have no confidence in Johnson, how can we?'

Sir John Major believes Boris Johnson acted like a dishonest estate agent and lied when he prorogued Parliament because he had 'ulterior motives' linked to Brexit, the Supreme Court heard.

Lord Heseltine called the claims of the Leave campaign, fronted by Johnson, 'an appalling deception of the British people'

His electoral allies the DUP have already changed their opinion of Johnson (who acted like a tin-pot ruler and gave himself the new position of Minister for the Union) - Arlene Foster turns on Boris Johnson, saying she will never take him at his word again: 'Once bitten, twice shy'

Former Conservative minister Nick Boles sums him up well. Johnson is “a compulsive liar who has betrayed every single person he has ever had any dealings with.”

“Former Conservative minister Nick Boles sums him up well. Johnson is “a compulsive liar who has betrayed every single person he has ever had any dealings with.”

😂😂😂😂 what a joke. Ask Nick Boles’ constituents what they think of him... he is in NO position to talk about betrayal, and I don’t just mean on Brexit either.