If the Shadow Health Secretary has no confidence in Corybn how can we?

[Thegrinch2019]

He has been recorded saying Corbyn has no chance in getting in, a security risk and voters can’t stand him. A bit of a worry from one of his own cabinet

//www.order-order.com/2019/12/10/ashworth-civil-service-machine-will-move-quickly-safeguard-national-security-corbyn/

[Puzzledandpissedoff]

I’ll bet the vast majority of Labour MP’s agree that Corbyn is a total dud

No betting needed since it's a certainty - after all he lost of Vote of No Confidence among Labour MPs by 172 to 40

[AutumnCrow]

I'm an Anyone But Boris tactical voter.

You do sound a bit ToryBot, tbh, OP. Sign of the times innit. Oh well, it'll all be over in 52 hours and a bit.

[GoodJobSteve]

It's not a presidential election. We're not voting for Corbyn or Johnson, we're voting for their parties. After the last 9 years of the Conservatives being in charge, I judge them guilty of ideologically imposed austerity (counter to the usual recommended economic response to recessions) and for imposing the Brexit shit-show on us all.

For that reason, I'm voting Labour.

If, in 5 years time, Labour have delivered on all the catastrophic predictions of the 'anyone but Corbyn' brigade, I'll be voting a different way, of course. But for this election, it's a no-brainer.

[Comradesally]

New Labour didn't help hospitals at all. Certainly not the ones near me anyway!!

[Comradesally]

I think things will get extremely nasty if corbyn gets in.

Momentum scares me abd corbyn scares me. Nothing will be fairer we will all be poorer and in a nasty aggressive and subversive society.
It will be like Rotherham all over again.

[Blkllama]

I will be voting Labour and for Mr Corbyn who seems a decent man.
I will not be voting for a lying, sack of shit like the present tory leader, nor any of the other parties who stand for little and who seem to hang around like a pack of hyenas.

[Thegrinch2019]

There are lots of posts pro labour and lots pro tories, I'm sure these are people who are engaged about politics rather than propaganda. There are many labour ones here that I don't agree with, but in life there are lots of people with different views.

[Thegrinch2019]

@simkin So I should have made the headline vague?
That doesn't make sense to me.

[EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit]

“I won't be posting again on here because I don't want to keep your headline in active conversations.”

I will though! Happy to give you a boost OP! 😉

[Simkin]

I'll tell you what makes you look like a bot who's been trained to post on here just in case you're not. Signing up, posting one thing and making sure that the headline of your post includes something very simple but complete to damn the opposition. You don't need to open the thread to get the message.

I won't be posting again on here because I don't want to keep your headline in active conversations.

[Thegrinch2019]

Having a political view or being scared of JC getting into power does not make me a Tory bot or paid by the Tory Party. I have voted Labour every time bar once when I voted Lib Deb (due to the Gulf war).
It seems to be very easy just to dismiss someone who has a concern or a view different to your own as just being a bot. New Labour were electable they did improve the NHS and did introduce much that helped many sections of society; but what JC is proposing is very far from New Labour and will destroy the economy, when this happens you can kiss goodbye to more money in the NHS etc. He has come across so poorly after many of the interviews. The promises seem to be coming more and more farcical.

[NameChangeNugget]

I think he’s getting an unnecessarily hard time about this.

It’s what most floating voters are thinking and the betting companies are agreeing too.

A Labour majority is now 28/1 and a Conservative victory is 1/3.

It’s refreshing to hear a politician be so honest.

[LolaSmiles]

The way I see it is the labour party (like the conservative party) are a broad church.

There's centre left and more left wing in the labour party and centre left and right wing in the conservative party.

Expecting a party to all subscribe to exactly the same views is a pointless task.

Really the only sensible way to vote is to look at the ideology in each manifesto and decide if that's what you want the country to look like, so if someone cares about public services and is against privatisation then regardless of personality politics for leaders, it makes sense to vote labour.

[Baguetteaboutit]

I think I'm with anyone but Boris at this point, I just wish it wasn't fucking Corbyn. Argh, idk, I still don't know who to vote for, FFS.

[EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit]

“Anyone but Boris.”

ABB? It’s good, but ABC rolls off the tongue much more smoothly.

5/10 for effort though! ⭐️ 🙌

[CendrillonSings]

One shadow cabinet minister.

One actually caught on tape - obviously half the rest think the same thing, or worse!

[BrexitMakeItStop]

Anyone but Boris, who will plunge us into a No Deal Exit, lies every time he opens his mouth, was denied security clearance by May and plans to enable an autocracy / dictatorship with page 48 of his manifesto.

Anyone but Boris.

[EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit]

“One very significant shadow cabinet minister.”

Fixed that for you.

[MrsMaiselsMuff]

even his own Shadow Cabinet colleagues think Corbyn’s betrayed his own voters

One shadow cabinet minister.

It was Johnson who had security information withheld when he was Foreign Secretary.

Now remind us how many new hospitals the Conservatives are building? Is it 60, or 40, or is it 6?

You have a very poor grasp of facts.

[peachescariad]

Shadow Health Secretary is right and I don't either....

Brexit here...and all my family and mahoosive circle of friends

[EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit]

Here’s lovely Nick Boles using a sexist term, remember the halcyon ‘outrage’ days of ‘girly swot’?

I give you... “big girls blouse”

twitter.com/nickboles/status/1202681577744019457

[Rosehip10]

Cchq paying posters like this 0.0001 per post.

[CendrillonSings]

No kidding - even his own Shadow Cabinet colleagues think Corbyn’s betrayed his own voters and would be a national security risk if he gained power!

[EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit]

“Former Conservative minister Nick Boles sums him up well. Johnson is “a compulsive liar who has betrayed every single person he has ever had any dealings with.”

😂😂😂😂 what a joke. Ask Nick Boles’ constituents what they think of him... he is in NO position to talk about betrayal, and I don’t just mean on Brexit either.

[Havanananana]

Surely the OP meant to write 'If former Conservative ministers have no confidence in Johnson, how can we?'

Sir John Major believes Boris Johnson acted like a dishonest estate agent and lied when he prorogued Parliament because he had 'ulterior motives' linked to Brexit, the Supreme Court heard.

Lord Heseltine called the claims of the Leave campaign, fronted by Johnson, 'an appalling deception of the British people'

His electoral allies the DUP have already changed their opinion of Johnson (who acted like a tin-pot ruler and gave himself the new position of Minister for the Union) - Arlene Foster turns on Boris Johnson, saying she will never take him at his word again: 'Once bitten, twice shy'

Former Conservative minister Nick Boles sums him up well. Johnson is “a compulsive liar who has betrayed every single person he has ever had any dealings with.”