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Fairytale of New York should be banned from radio

508 replies

Alrighteo · 04/12/2019 12:38

This is from one of the UK tabolids

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HigherFurtherFasterBaby · 04/12/2019 12:41

I don’t understand why people like this song Confused The lyrics are foul

Alrighteo · 04/12/2019 12:42

Sorry, hit post too soon.

Irish websites carrying the story with more weight to last year's explanation from Shane MacGowan i.e. that the lyrics are in keeping with the character and play it or don't play it but he doesn't want to get into an argument.

It has been voted favourite Christmas song of the year several times.

And he wants to ban it?

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BertrandRussell · 04/12/2019 12:43

People don’t listen to the lyrics. They see the title and listen to the pretty music.

RonniePickering · 04/12/2019 12:44

Aah it's a great tune.

Alrighteo · 04/12/2019 12:44
  1. It's a musical masterpiece
  2. It's a lyrical masterpiece
  3. It's honest and raw and beautiful in its sheer truth
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Emeraldshamrock · 04/12/2019 12:44

There were lots of calls for it to be banned last year. A BBC radio presenter has banned it, there most likely still playing Michael Jackson's songs.
It was a different time, we can't ban everything. It reminds me of my Nanny when I was a child, she asked me if I liked it? I said I do Nanny I like the curses she clipped my ear. Grin

Alrighteo · 04/12/2019 12:47

There's a lot in it that's about Ireland.

For e.g. the NYPD choir singing Galway Bay.

It's an emigrants song particularly.

It's also a song about love and addiction and relationships and falling foul of the law etc. Dreams you have when you move abroad etc.

Personally I think it should be studied as a piece of poetry on the A level curriculum! Wink

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JKScot4 · 04/12/2019 12:47

The censoring of music is completely imbalanced; whips & chains gets bleeped out yet ‘your sex takes me to heaven’ ‘sex is on fire’ etc is played, annoys me just a bit.

oohyoudevilyou · 04/12/2019 12:48

Lots of people, me included, like the song and want to hear it each December, but I also think a DJ should be able to choose what to play and not to play on their own show (with the agreement of their superiors of course). It's not been banned by the BBC, its just that Alex Dyke won't play it on his show. I doubt that Cliff Richard's festive bilge gets much airtime on Planet Rock either! Grin

TreeFaerie · 04/12/2019 12:49

It's a beautiful, meaningful song and my favourite Christmas song.

Are there calls to ban the million raps songs with the F and N words in?

Drpeppered · 04/12/2019 12:49

Sorry, but I don’t think “you scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy f**got” is lyrical mastery, personally.

Alrighteo · 04/12/2019 12:50

Or Cliff Richard.......... God above. Give me something raw and talented rather than some piece of manufactured PC tripe..

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Babdoc · 04/12/2019 12:50

If I’m forced to listen to Christmas pop songs (much prefer carols), I must say that the Pogues are a much needed antidote to all the sentimental sugary crap that assaults our ears at this time of year! Be honest- if you were chained to a chair with a speaker playing a non stop song, which one would sicken you first - Fairy tale of New York or Frosty the fucking snowman?!
(And ditto ditto White bloody Christmas and Chestnuts roasting on an open fire...)

ScreamingValenta · 04/12/2019 12:50

I think it's awful, but I wouldn't advocate banning it. It paints a depressing picture of an abusive relationship, which isn't what I want to hear at Christmas. If it wasn't treated as a festive song, it wouldn't be so bad.

However, if others like it, fair enough. The world would be boring if we all liked the same things.

EleanorShellstrop100 · 04/12/2019 12:51

LOVE it

Drpeppered · 04/12/2019 12:51

I don’t think it should be banned, but I do think we should take on board how a lot of members of the LGBT community feel about that song, and not enthusiastically sing along to that particular F word.

BertrandRussell · 04/12/2019 12:51

I think it’s a fantastic song. But it doesn’t belong with Christmas songs- it’s ridiculous.

MrsNoMopp · 04/12/2019 12:52

It's a derivative, faux-meaningful dirge sung in strained tones. I'd be happy never to hear it again Grin

Alrighteo · 04/12/2019 12:52

It's lyrical mastery because it puts you directly in the place the writer wants you to be.

Snow will fall, Merry Christmas, doesn't do it for me unfortunately.

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IWorkAtTheCheesecakeFactory · 04/12/2019 12:52

Ban it? FFS.

It truly is the snowflake era.

dontalltalkatonce · 04/12/2019 12:53

Then we should ban all kinds of things, such as Michael Jackson songs, Eminem, a lot of hiphop songs, Lily Allen songs . . .

blackteasplease · 04/12/2019 12:54

I love the song! Yes the words are very raw and insulting but the singers are in character. It’s showing how awful addiction, and circumstances, can be for people and what it does to hopes and dreams.

It’s a fantastic song and I agree with the PP who said it should be studied.

The lyrics clearly aren’t suitable for children but then again they are largely unintelligible anyway, so I wouldn’t get worked up about hearing it on the radio. I couldn’t make out the words “you’re an old slut on junk, lying there dead (?) with that drip in your arm” which I think are the worst part, until i saw them written down!

insancerre · 04/12/2019 12:55

It is the only Christmas song I actually like
But then I listen to a lot of music by the pogues
The Pogues aren’t just for Christmas you know

raspberryk · 04/12/2019 12:55

Censoring has gone mad. That is all.