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To ask neighbours AGAIN to leave me a parking space

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Sweetpeach3 · 30/11/2019 16:03

Long story short. Bought my house over a year ago....
neighbours are fine in general just a few annoying things, i.e have parcels delivered and their kids don't move out of bed all day to answer the door- we take them in and end up with them for atLeast 2 weeks unless I take it for them! (Kids are in their 20s just lazy)

My other issue is parking!!
They have 2 cars and a large van
Quick brief on how the situation is---
I own the land at the back of our houses (I can discribe it as a large alleyway were you can fit 2 cars side by side and it's 3 detached houses long) it's straight acces to all our gardens but I do own it overall. We do also have a parking bay outside our houses that would fit a car each. We're on a busy main road also

A few weeks ago they parked both their cars in front of my back gate so I literally couldn't get in the back gate and then had the van on the front (taking my space ) so I had to park over the main road. I left them a letter and they apologised and agreed they would leave the van an car at the back an leave me enough access to open my gate and then a car on the front so I atLeast have one space.... I'm heavily pregnant with 2 young kids so I think I'm being reasonable letting them use the whole back aslong as they leave me 1 pissing space
They also have a drive in their back but don't use it just block up the access road for everyone else
I know the past 2 people who have lived here have had the same issue with them
Last week we was having our loft and stairs re built. The man next door came home for dinner and sat on my front beeping (assumed we wasn't home) for my workmen to move their van out of my space as his van wouldn't fit. His car would of May I add!! Then when I went to the door he apologised as he didn't know we was home an said he will use his back why he's got his van!!!! Just utter arseholes but other then this their ok neighbours just very selfish

But
This past week iv been lumbered with 2 huge parcels in my downstairs bathroom they won't collect but they are in. I'm not walk-in them around AGAIN as they are heavy and they've took up the whole back and have 2 cars on the front. I'm due in 2 weeks an they know how busy the road is so AIBU to ask them to move one of their cars so I can park on my front as I'm struggling to walk and then to get 2 kids into a car on the opposite side of the road. Parked on the road not in a lay by designed for residents parking or on my backs so I'm not having heart failure trying to get over this main road to my car with kids an bags etc
Really annoying me because their kids are in their 20s and their late 40s no health issues as im aware making them have to all park so close.
I agreed to let them have the whole back aslong as I can have the front an they left me enough room to open the gate

Finding them so selfish right now???

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SynchroSwimmer · 30/11/2019 16:47

Sometimes you just have to assert your own property boundaries with neighbours - and then let them know what you might “permit” or temporarily agree that they can do, but on your terms.

(I have similar issues intermittently)

As others have said, some permanent/temporary barrier...posts with chains, railway sleepers, loan of a trailer just to park and take up your space...loan of friends van or vehicles to use up all your own space at the rear? - anything to show that the space is yours, that you can later remove at will - intermittently when you choose to (when you choose to allow them space)

Have you got a plan of your land ownership? (Land Registry online), do the neighbours know and acknowledge that it is your land?

I guess your neighbours need to be inconvenienced first, by having to park elsewhere for a period of time - before they will appreciate your space that you are allowing them to use at the rear?

If you own it, the neighbours ought to be treating you nicely and respectfully.

Span1elsRock · 30/11/2019 16:49

In the kindest way, OP, you're being a doormat and they're walking all over you. Stop being so passive and tell them they cannot use your spaces or block them and stop taking their parcels in.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 30/11/2019 16:53

Take the advice on this thread.

Don't take in parcels.

Don't allow them access to your land.

Make them move their vans/cars EVERY TIME.

If they don't, invest in a clamp,, and make sure they CAN'T move until it suits you.

Instatwat · 30/11/2019 16:54

I agree with @Drabarni. Both problems are of your own making - stop taking parcels, stop allowing them to park on land you own.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 30/11/2019 16:54

Stop letting them use your property or they may end up making a claim on it, then you’ll end up trying fight them for it and out of pocket.

Tistheseason17 · 30/11/2019 17:07

Don't take items in and.... penguin bollards to stop them parking at rear. This allows easement right but not parking right as you own the land.

And put the items you currently have on your front lawn... pop note through door advising they are there.

Sweetpeach3 · 30/11/2019 17:12

Diagram

To ask neighbours AGAIN to leave me a parking space
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T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 30/11/2019 17:14

Nooooo! I can’t see the diagram! Did you post it on the app?

LovePoppy · 30/11/2019 17:19

Why on earth do you a) accept parcels, b) allow them to park in your spots, then beg to use one?!

AssangesCat · 30/11/2019 17:21

The thing I have realised with neighbours is that once you let it slide, you're that neighbour that sometimes complains, so they might get away with it. Unfortunately they have to find out that you're that neighbour that always complains and will not let them get away with it.

converseandjeans · 30/11/2019 17:21

Stop accepting parcels. Just say no.
Also just tell them it's your land and they can't park there any more? Maybe get some bollards or something.

Obligatorync · 30/11/2019 17:21

I think you've been more than generous.
I would go round and say that you want them to abide by what they agreed with parking and that if there is another problem you will remove their ability to park on your land at all, for good.
And I would say that if any more parcels are not collected at the latest by the next day, you will no longer take any parcels.
And I'd stick to it.
You'd still be reasonable to draw the line now, though. I'm just a wuss.

Sweetpeach3 · 30/11/2019 17:22

Excuse my poor drawings lol kids would of done it better. Iv stopped taking them but my step son took one the other day. Not his fault he isn't to know
But as for the parking it is my land but I need to give them access. But I said to them I don't mind them using the whole backs for their cars just leave me room to open my gate to get out when walking the dog an il use the space on the front as I don't like the back anyway it's dark!!

I just feel so cheeky keep askin them to leave me space as their clearly not listening but I am struggling to get 2 toddlers over a busy road and being so fat an pregnant isn't great plus my son is disabled I end up doing 3 trips till we're all in and ready to go takes forever ..... x

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Mummyme1987 · 30/11/2019 17:22

If you allow them access to your land you may be leaving yourself open to claims of rights over your land later.

supercee · 30/11/2019 17:24

These parking posts drive me mad when the solution is clearly obvious.

Stop taking the parcels.

Tell CF neighbours that due to their piss-taking behaviour they won't be allowed to park on your land anymore. And then put measures in place to ensure that doesn't happen, bollards etc.

Solved.

Disfordarkchocolate · 30/11/2019 17:24

Do you have to allow access for a car/van? If not then get a bollard up, they can still walk down the alley.

Velveteenfruitbowl · 30/11/2019 17:25

Good heavens. Refuse their patients and tell them if they don’t stop taking up your space you’ll sue for trespass/private nuisance (not suggesting you actually sue, just tell them you will, send a preaction letter of that doesn’t stop them).

DishingOutDone · 30/11/2019 17:26

cant see the diagram so that might answer this question but you say "I agreed to let them have the whole back" - why? When you did that, you set yourself up for the problems you have now and I agree with @Mummyme1987 - are creating rights for them.

What do your deeds say about access?

donquixotedelamancha · 30/11/2019 17:27

If you allow them access to your land you may be leaving yourself open to claims of rights over your land later.

The land is access to their back gate. Given OP's posts I'm pretty sure they already have access rights.

SinkGirl · 30/11/2019 17:27

Is your front parking space designated / owned by you or just on street parking?

I would ask them again one more time to please stop parking in your space at the front since you are very kindly at the moment letting them park on your land at the back. If they still can’t behave civilly, tell them they can no longer use your land to park.

Pop a note round, and say you’ve got two huge parcels you can’t carry and they need to come and get them this weekend. Then don’t take any more and tell your kids the same.

Tistheseason17 · 30/11/2019 17:28

I very mich the access right is "by car".
I would expect it is general access and by foot is normal - put the bollards up so they can walk and gain access but not get a car parked there!!!

donquixotedelamancha · 30/11/2019 17:28

But as for the parking it is my land but I need to give them access.

Access is not parking. Put gates up. Leave a foot gate.

TheKitchenWitch · 30/11/2019 17:29

We need the diagram!

beautifulstranger101 · 30/11/2019 17:32

As others have said, you are kind of allowing this to happen OP. Put barriers up round your parking space and for heavens sake, STOP taking their parcels. You aren't obliged to do this, I just tell the postman no, sorry, I dont take other peoples parcels. Let them trek down to the post office to pick them up. I dont really understand why you are continuing to take them in if it annoys you? Its a bit like constantly lending someone money who never pays you back- just stop doing it then!!!

Sweetpeach3 · 30/11/2019 17:34

I don't take parcels anymore my son did this by accident and he wasn't to know any different
They need access to their drive at the back of their house and I'm so tempted to tell them to not park their cars on my land no more as I'm left without anywhere to park.
Il park at the back but il leave enough room for them to access their drive. AtLeast then my car is safe as I have cameras on the land and I have access 24/7.
Only reason I said they could use the back was in the thinking they would be reasonable and leave me the space out front as the front is easier for me then the back and they wanted the back so was a mutual agreement and worked for us both. Now their just taking the piss. I deffo ain't having it when iv 3 kids in toe

(I don't like the back hence the no parking their for me ) haha x

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