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General Election....who are you voting for and why?

352 replies

GreenEyeBlueEye · 25/11/2019 20:28

Just like the title

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MustardScreams · 26/11/2019 09:32

But the Tories haven’t released a single bit of information so far that hasn’t been torn down. So yes I will give you the fully costed ‘nonsense’.

50,000 nurses? They’re a joke.

Caramel78 · 26/11/2019 09:34

Lib Dem because they are anti brexit

KidLorneRoll · 26/11/2019 09:34

200,000 nurses have quit under the tories.

25,000 less police on the street.

And they want us to believe that sticking 50,000 new nurses, and 20,000 new officers on the street is progress?

Ok then.

Changingchanging123 · 26/11/2019 09:37

@MrsDoylesTea. That fully costed line drives me nuts. They have made all sorts of super heroic assumptions like no changes to people's behaviour as a result of tax rate changes (hahaha!). That nationalisation won't really cost anything because you are aquiring an asset (haha) to be funded by debt. Not to mention the extra risk that is hitting the taxpayer balance sheet.

MustardScreams · 26/11/2019 09:48

I know you catch more flies with honey, but I honestly think you have to be just so horrifically selfish and morally devoid to vote Tory.

They have proven time and time again they don’t give a shit about normal people, and everyone that votes for them is basically agreeing that disabled, poor, single parents etc are worthless.

eenymeenyminyme · 26/11/2019 09:52

Lib Dem - wouldn't vote Tory under any circumstances and Lib Dems are the only ones with a chance of beating them in my area.

TheFuckingDogs · 26/11/2019 09:55

Labour.

peachescariad · 26/11/2019 09:56

www.votenone.org.uk/protest_votes_count.html

None of them are good enough o run the country so this is my only option

TildaKauskumholm · 26/11/2019 09:58

Conservative - only 2 choices here, them or SNP.

DartmoorDoughnut · 26/11/2019 09:58

Don’t really want to vote for any of them tbh so asked my eldest (5) what colour to vote for and he chose yellow so yellow it is 🤷🏻‍♀️

RibenaMonsoon · 26/11/2019 09:59

They have proven time and time again they don’t give a shit about normal people, and everyone that votes for them is basically agreeing that disabled, poor, single parents etc are worthless

I'm "normal people". Working my arse off as self employed in a new business. So far it's doing okay. Under labour I can guarantee (partly corporation tax, partly the type of Industry) that will change for the worse and I'll be one of those families struggling, using food banks, using the state to survive because I have no other choice. I can't imagine I'll be alone in that as far as small business owners are concerned. Where will Corbyn get his funding for all those poor people struggling if there's no more small business owners paying the odds on tax because they are now out of business?

My children have always been and will always be my first priority. They come before me, they are going to come before anybody else. You can all me selfish all you like, it won't make it true. Its in fact the opposite. It's part of being a parent as far as I'm concerned. I'm working hard to give my children the best start in life. No one else is going to. I'm sick of people calling me selfish because of that.

NameChangeNugget · 26/11/2019 10:01

Anyone but, Labour. Still undecided

MustardScreams · 26/11/2019 10:33

@RibenaMonsoon are you not concerned about your children’s education? That if they need mental health care in the future they’re likely to not get the support, if they’re ill or in an accident they won’t be able to access benefits to keep them above board for 6 weeks minimum? That they’re likely to need private health insurance in the future?

Unless the business you’re working for is paying you millions I don’t see how voting Tory is outing your children first. You’re forcing them to grow up in a world where right-wing reigns and hate crimes soar, immigrants are blamed for every ill in this country, if you’re disabled you’re seen as lesser and treated as so. That’s not what I want for my daughter.

elliejjtiny · 26/11/2019 10:40

Lib dems. Mostly a tactical vote to get our current tory mp out. Also because I don't want brexit.

GreenEyeBlueEye · 26/11/2019 10:59

Thanks for everyone’s opinions.

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G3m81 · 26/11/2019 11:09

Conservatives. Labour will get in where I live though. They could stick a rosette on a donkey and name it as their candidate and people will vote for them because their great, great grandfather always voted Labour.

CrunchyCarrot · 26/11/2019 11:13

It makes no difference here who I vote for, as it's a Conservative safe seat, and a Leave seat, so since I'm not a Tory I am thinking of voting Green as climate change is increasingly going to overshadow everything else.

RibenaMonsoon · 26/11/2019 11:14

@mustardacreams
Spending on non-NHS providers is not a new development. Both the Blair and Brown governments used private providers to increase patient choice and competition as part of their reform programme, and additional capacity provided by the private sector played a role in improving patients’ access to hospital treatment. Blaming NHS privitisation on the Conservative party is what seems to be happening at the moment but if you look back on the history of it, its not as simple as that.
I understand your concern there but I don't share it.

Conservatives manifesto shows they plan to inject 14 million into school funding.

Parties don't always carry out everything in their manifesto granted, but that's the case for any party. It's a lot less far fetched than labour's free BT broadband for every household. (I work in telecommunications, selling these services, not on behalf of BT, hence this being a threat to my income) and no, I don't make millions.

My son and daughter will be brought up to understand that if you want something in this life, you have to work for it. If they do that, worst case scenario. Then yes, go private if needs be. I don't think it will come to that.

MustardScreams · 26/11/2019 11:16

14 million won’t even scrape the surface of education funding.

You’re living in dream land if you think you’re voting for the future of your children.

thecatsthecats · 26/11/2019 11:19

Liberal Democrat:

  1. Under 'normal' circumstances, they're my natural political home.
  2. I live in a very safe Labour seat. There's no need to consider tactical voting against the Tories. I want to contribute to a strong national % for unambiguously Remain. (I think Lord Heseltine articulated this point well this morning)
  3. I am not happy with the handling of Anti-Semitism in the Labour party.
  4. I'm not anti-nationalisation, but I think it's an over-ambitious plan by Labour. Why do the hard-left always want to skip the hard part of sorting things out slow and steady?
havingtochangeusernameagain · 26/11/2019 11:23

A plague on all their houses, really. But at the moment Brexit is the biggest issue for me so I will vote Libdem. A complete waste of time as I live in a very safe Tory seat but I will vote.

Not keen on the Libdem's policies on self-ID or building houses on green field sites, but that can be sorted after Brexit is.

LynseyLou1982 · 26/11/2019 11:36

Voting tactically so Labour. I cannot stand the Tories and what they have done already to this country and what they are proposing to do. I don't want my son to grow up in a country where food banks and austerity are the norm. I don't particularly like Labour and Corbyn either or the Liberal Democrats but I have to vote for someone and I'd rather try and oust the Tories.

RibenaMonsoon · 26/11/2019 11:36

My children would be educated but homeless I'm afraid. Schools won't fall into rack and ruin. We are a 1st world country after all. But my business would be kaput.

I understand and appreciate why people vote Labour. But I'm not one of them. I did appreciate our debate though Grin

firstimemamma · 26/11/2019 11:42

Green. I know they'll never win but as a mum I worry about the environment and what the future holds (disclaimer - I know the uk is a drop in the ocean compared to USA etc, it's just a personal choice to vote green).

Second choice would be labour every time.

Could never vote Tory!

Sooperkat · 26/11/2019 12:32

Labour. I don’t see compassion in any of the Conservatives’ ministers, in their manifesto or in Boris Johnson.