Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Poor DH not getting a break......but it’s fine for me to not have a break?!

121 replies

QueenofmyPrinces · 20/11/2019 10:15

I can’t tell if I’m overreacting?

I’m a nurse and my husband is a teacher.

I work two days a week, I work my shifts two days in a row, and I’m out the house for over 14 hours each day. I leave the house at 6.50am and am usually home at about 9.30pm. I’m obviously very worn out by the time I get home on my first day, and by the end of my second day I’m shattered.

My husband works 5 days a week, leaves the house at 7am and is back by 4.15pm.

We have two children, a 5 year old and a 2 year old. The 5 year old is at school and the 2 year old goes to a childminder on the days I work.

My husband goes to the gym about three evenings a week once the children are in bed which he can obviously only do because I’m at home to sit with the children. He also goes 1-2 mornings a week before work, so he leaves the house at about 5am so I do all the morning routine myself when the children wake up at about 6am.

The only time I get to do something for myself is for 2 hours on a Friday morning and the 2 year old goes to his childminder during that time to enable me to do it.

On the 5 days I’m not at work I do all the housework jobs, I do the school runs, the homework, the bath times, the bedtimes and I obviously have the 2 year old during the day. My two year old also still wakes 1-2 times a night which I get up and deal with.

When my husband comes home he will cook us our evening meal.

My Manager spoke to me earlier and asked if I could swap my shifts this week to work this coming Saturday and Sunday as they are short staffed. I checked with DH to make sure he/we didn’t have any plans and he said it was fine to work the weekend.

I have since bumped into my FIL, it came up in conversation and he did not look happy and implied that it wasn’t really fair as it meant my DH “wouldn’t get a break.”

I felt so angry and thought, and when the hell do you think I get a break?!

I’m either doing my back to back shifts at work or I’m with the children and doing the day-to-day parenting that I listed above.

He then said he would have to take the children for some periods over the weekend so DH can have some rest and also so he can get to the gym when he wants to go .

He’s never offered to have the children for some periods during the days when I’m at home with them though so that I can have some rest or pursue a leisure activity.....

My DH was away last weekend at a sports fixture, from Friday night through to Sunday night and my FIL obviously thinks solo parenting is fine when the mother has to do it, but God Forbid the father has to look after his children for a weekend whilst the wife has to work.

During the weekend DH was away I didn’t see my father in law once, he didn’t pop round and offer to mind the children for a few hours so I could have some downtime, but as soon as my DH has got to solo parent for two days in a row, suddenly he’s falling over himself to look after the children so DH can have a break.

My DH doesn’t have a problem at all with having the children on his own for both days, he’s really hands on and it wouldn’t even cross his mind that he deserves rest at the weekend. He understands that we both work and the children are both of our responsibilities and we just crack on with it as a team.

I don’t expect any help from FIL at all, that’s not the point of the post, it’s just the complete double standards of it all that’s made me feel so annoyed.

He will now doubt pass underhand comments to my DH about how bad he’s got it because he shouldn’t be expected to look after the children at the weekend when he’s “been at work all week”.

His attitude has really pissed me off

OP posts:
ivykaty44 · 20/11/2019 11:25

Why do woman do all the household stuff the childcare and work when their partner cooks the dinner and works outside the home but doesn’t contribute 50% at home? Why do woman allow this to happen?

StormTreader · 20/11/2019 11:27

"I absolutely don’t mind this, I think it’s really important for people to have time out from work and family time to do something they enjoy."

So why have't you spoken to DH about what the two of you can do so that you get this as well? Why is it only important for other people to have that and not you?

Flashbackflossie · 20/11/2019 11:27

@GrumpyHoonMain maybe in your limited experience, but it’s not a universal truth.

No teacher as my son’s primary school starts earlier than 9am and most have left by 3.30pm. It’s rare that anyone inc. headteacher stays beyond 4pm. I live next door to the school so I can see who’s arriving/leaving.

School day is 9.20 - 3pm

We’re in Ireland and this is the norm for our rural schools. Teachers also don’t spend hours planning as they follow the set course books. Especially newly qualified teachers, more’s the pity. 😳

CharityDingle · 20/11/2019 11:28

It's none of his business, surely?

Dustarr73 · 20/11/2019 11:32

@QueenofmyPrinces Where are your parents.

Fil is your Dh dad,hes helping him.Maybe ask your dp for the same.

You only have to read on here about the in laws over stepping bounderies.Maybe Fil doesnt want to do that.

KronksSpinachPuffs · 20/11/2019 11:33

@antisupermum your post hit the nail on the head for what I was thinking too

HeadSpin5 · 20/11/2019 11:33

Your description of your FIL rang bells with me - I have a similar MIL who I absolutely adore but can come out with some corkers at times, particularly if she she feels her only son (aka golden boy) is being hard done by. One recent gem - after I commented on not looking forward to the working week starting - was to say that I should count myself lucky as I ‘only’ work part time over 4 days and not full time like poor DH. Never mind the fact I do 90% of all household and child related work around those ‘lesser’ hours - which she knows full well and pulls her son up on it often enough. She apologised later, she ‘didn’t know why she said it’ but I remember the gobsmscked, open-mouthed, chastised feeling at the time very well! OP you are def NBU.

QueenofmyPrinces · 20/11/2019 11:36

So why have't you spoken to DH about what the two of you can do so that you get this as well? Why is it only important for other people to have that and not you?

I guess the reality is that when I’m at home with the children during the week there just isn’t the opportunity for me to do things.

I do my activity on Friday mornings so at least I get to do that. It obviously means we are paying out for childcare that we don’t ‘need’ but my husband knows I need some time to myself.

In order to do this activity I had to do a 13 week training course, one day a week, and we paid for our son to go to his childminder during that time and again, DH didn’t begrudge it because he understands that it’s just as important for me to have something for myself as it is for him (his gym).

I go and get a few beauty treatments done every 6 weeks, and every couple of months my husband will book me a night away in a lovely countryside B&B so I can have 24 hours of peace - again, because he knows I need a break every now and then.

Like I said, I have no problems with how things are at home, I’m just annoyed at my FIL’s double standards about the roles of mothers and fathers when it comes to looking after children.

OP posts:
Cuppachino · 20/11/2019 11:38

I would frame this to DH as FIL thinks DH is not capable(obviously he is) of looking after the children on his own and that's why he's offering to help. Surely DH will feel very patronised and set FIL straight?

IamwhoIsayIam · 20/11/2019 11:40

Why is everyone having a go at the DH on here? As I read it its the FIL that the OP is moaning about?

Why do people have such a problem with people committed to regular sport and exercise? I don't think 3 sessions a week is that big a deal and it sounds like the OP and her DH have got a system that works for them. Anything less than 3 sport/exercise sessions in a week and he would barely be 'keeping fit'.

Why do mums netters always jump on sport/exercise/gym as being some sort of indulgence and way to avoid childcare?

raspberryk · 20/11/2019 11:40

I am surprised it didn't come straight out of your mouth as you thought it, which is what happens with my thoughts. I would have 100% said it to him there and then.

Elle7rose · 20/11/2019 11:41

Did you tell your DH that FiL came up to you angrily and seemed to think he needed to be involved in childcare this weekend even though the kids have one of their parents at home with them?

Just say that obviously this is silly because last weekend you looked after them alone so of course he can.

ivykaty44 · 20/11/2019 11:41

But is it double standards? Did fil say you shouldn’t have a break? He isn’t offloading the grandchildren to MIL is he?

QueenofmyPrinces · 20/11/2019 11:43

Where are your parents?

My parents live about 40 minute drive away. My mom is in poor health and my dad works full time.

In relation to a separate issue that is going on my life they are both a MASSIVE help to me and DH and they do things to help us that means they have to put themselves out - we are both very grateful to them.

In relation to this issue my FIL also helps out when he can - he really isn’t a bad person at all. Like I said, he’s kind and thoughtful in many ways, it’s just this one comment that really annoyed me.

OP posts:
QueenofmyPrinces · 20/11/2019 11:45

But is it double standards? Did fil say you shouldn’t have a break? He isn’t offloading the grandchildren to MIL is he?

If it wasn’t double standards then surely FIL would offer me some relief so I can have a break every now and then too?

Sadly MIL has passed away Sad

OP posts:
Teateaandmoretea · 20/11/2019 11:45

Why do mums netters always jump on sport/exercise/gym as being some sort of indulgence and way to avoid childcare?

Apart from on the competitive dieting threads.

Yanbu at all OP. I had similar from my own Dad earlier in the week because I am going away for the weekend on my own for the first time in over 10 years. They are sexist twats, no more or less. He is horrified that I work and DH cooks dinner etc.

SummerPavillion · 20/11/2019 11:45

Your FIL, amongst other men, thinks childcare comes naturally to women and therefore isn't tiring or challenging like it would be for men.

I certainly hope this attitude is dying out.

Ginseng1 · 20/11/2019 11:45

Lol my own mother on the rare w/e am away always invites DH n kids up for Sunday lunch to help out. Wouldn't cross her mind when DH away. R she might say 'sure you'll be fine Sunday won't you' I tease her about it!!! My ils do same with dh brother when sil away & he plays up to it big time. And at last great to hear about teachers who do not burn the candle at both ends. (here in Ireland almost unheard of for teachers to regularly work past 4 & am v happy with my kids teachers & education sofar!)

ivykaty44 · 20/11/2019 11:49

Queen where are your Male family members?

ivykaty44 · 20/11/2019 11:51

So when does your own father offer to have the children to give you a break?

Bouledeneige · 20/11/2019 11:51

Your FIL is an arse. And your DH has a very good deal getting to the gym 5 times a week or more.

But spending time with the children shouldn't be regarded as work. It's family time - real life - not a burden to be handed wearily from parent to parent. My XH was often absent or away as an academic, he lived in an ivory tower - I was always choosing to rush home to get more time with my kids, spending whole weekends on my own with them and never be-grudged it. Men who prioritise their other outside their home stuff end up missing out.

This is why generations of men look on from the sidelines as their children grow up emotionally bonded to their mums into adulthood. They just weren't there either physically or mentally - and lose out on the joy of being in the moment with their children. More fool them if they wish that on their sons who are now fathers.

pipnchops · 20/11/2019 11:57

That would really annoy the hell out of me too and I'd be bringing it up with my DH and asking him to have a word with his dad.

Stephminx · 20/11/2019 11:57

@YabaDabaBoo

I often wonder when older generations say that we’re lucky our husbands help out is because in their day, that was unusual. So from their experience, we are lucky to live now where (some) dads do step up.

With MIL/FIL, I wonder if it’s sometimes because they are looking out for their own child and helping them, maybe assuming your parents would help you.

Although I do agree that in many cases there is a sexist element.

QueenofmyPrinces · 20/11/2019 11:58

So when does your own father offer to have the children to give you a break?

Like I said, he lives 40 minutes away and works full time. He will have our eldest son for a sleepover at least once a month though.

OP posts:
QueenofmyPrinces · 20/11/2019 12:00

But spending time with the children shouldn't be regarded as work. It's family time - real life - not a burden to be handed wearily from parent to parent

I can’t tell if that means you agree that I don’t deserve a break because I’m at home 5 days a week and he’s at work 5 days a week?

OP posts: