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To be completely unsurprised by Boris Johnson's support of Prince Andrew

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JasonPollack · 18/11/2019 09:13

In fact I think they are very similar men, which is probably why they get on so well.
"I’ve worked with Prince Andrew, I’ve seen the good he has been able to do for UK business overseas. I have no comment, or indeed no knowledge of this other stuff.”

To chose to defend someone who, even if he is personally innocent, which is doubtful, knowingly associated with a convicted sex offender beggers belief. The casual disregard being shown for the many victims of Epstein, vulnerable children, just dismissed as "this other stuff". The Prince is accused of sleeping with a trafficked, underage girl. To think that his record working for British business could erase that, or is even relavent to it!

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GiveHerHellFromUs · 18/11/2019 09:16

I don't think it's unreasonable to refuse to comment on anything he has no knowledge or proof of.

Cam77 · 18/11/2019 09:17

Johnson is a moral despot who seemingly has no control over his personal life to the extent that he doesmt know how many children he has fathered, or at least wont acknowledge some of them.

Cam77 · 18/11/2019 09:18

Change "despot" for "cesspit" (damn you auto correct!) - though despot works too.

TheQueef · 18/11/2019 09:18

Boris reality is far closer to Andrew than it is to his voters.
Unsurprising from a man who doesn't know how many children he has.

Fucking diabolical that it is our PM who's lining up his next five years but that won't change things.

tttigress · 18/11/2019 09:19

Erm, he didn't actually support him.

Think you are a bit too keen to make a political point.

Cam77 · 18/11/2019 09:20

@GiveHerHellFromUs
He didn't refuse to comment - he was absolutely effusive in his praise for the man ("who I've worked with") and said "of course I sympathise with him".

JasonPollack · 18/11/2019 09:20

I don't think it's unreasonable to refuse to comment on anything he has no knowledge or proof of.

But then surely you refuse to comment at all! You don't say, oh I don't know about the paedophiles but he's great for business! If my postman was arrested for murder I wouldn't go around telling people what a great postman he was!

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JasonPollack · 18/11/2019 09:22

How is that comment not support of him @tttigress

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Hazardd · 18/11/2019 09:22

Of course Johnson wouldn't see anything wrong with Prince Andrew associating with a sex offender. Johnson's morals don't exist.

Solihooley · 18/11/2019 09:23

The thing I notice, having watched the toe curling interview, was there was virtually no mention of the victims. It’s no surprise to me that men like Johnson and Andrew (who I think is clearly guilty as fuck) forget that behind rushing to defend their own actions, misjudgments and ‘unbecoming’ (FFS, anyone would think he’d accidentally flashed some ankle at a state dinner rather than cavorted with a convicted peado) behaviour there are real women who’s lives have been ruined and whose voices have been silenced. They have no interest in ensuring there is justice for these women which should surely be the main focus.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 18/11/2019 09:23

@Cam77 sorry I only judged based on the OP as I hadn't seen the interview.

@JasonPollack but if you kind of believed he hadn't done it you'd say something like "I don't think he'd be capable of something like that".

Bluntness100 · 18/11/2019 09:24

He's the prime minister. He works for the queen. He simoly cannot come out against Andrew. He has to toe the line. Any prime minister would say what he has and be non commital at best.

Seriously get a grip here.

JasonPollack · 18/11/2019 09:29

I wouldnt expect him to condem him, but I am shocked that he defended him. He could have refused the question.

He was not non commital at all that is a mischaracterisation.

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midnightmisssuki · 18/11/2019 10:01

You’re grasping at straws here. Has he come out and made a point about how he supports Andrew and how he believes that he is innocent? No? So you just want to start another Boris bashing thread for everyone to jump on? What would you rather him say? Andrew is a absolute bellend and he should be thrown in jail because clearly he is guilty of something?

Lifecraft · 18/11/2019 10:07

I hate Johnson, but I'm struggling to see where he defended Andrew. Nobody is in a position to defend or accuse him, because no one knows the truth.

longwayoff · 18/11/2019 10:08

They are a pair of entitled misogynists and any woman and mother voting for one of them should think very carefully about the message being giving to their children.

Clavinova · 18/11/2019 10:49

To think that his record working for British business...is even relevant to it!

Very relevant to the question he was asked though;

"Do you still have confidence in Prince Andrew's ability to fulfil his royal duties?"
Robert Peston, ITV, 25th August 2019 - found it on YouTube.

He could have refused the question.

I don't see how.

Cam77 · 18/11/2019 11:07

Normally, people don’t “sympathize” with people they barely know who are under suspicion of child abuse. Interesting that people are so used to the establishment closing ranks they don’t think it worthy of comment.

JacquesHammer · 18/11/2019 11:10

Morally dubious, privileged white man in supporting morally dubious privileged white man shocker.

Clavinova · 18/11/2019 11:12

Normally, people don’t “sympathize”

Which words expressed sympathy?
He was asked whether Prince Andrew should be allowed to continue his royal duties - back in August.

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 18/11/2019 11:14

Both twats.

SunsetBoulevard3 · 18/11/2019 11:17

It's a bit difficult I imagine to have audiences with the Queen when he's dissing her son, but I think he could have just said 'no comment, I do not know enough about this'.

Cam77 · 18/11/2019 11:18

I hate Johnson, but I'm struggling to see where he defended Andrew
Have you watched the video? To answer your question he should have given a non-communal response - don’t go on a one minute spiel about what a wonderful asset he is to Britain. It makes it sound like any wrong-doing shouldn’t be such a big deal in this case. (He’s really important you know!). Also, don’t express sympathy unless you know for certain he’s innocent of wrongdoing. Basic stuff this.

Cam77 · 18/11/2019 11:19

Which words expressed sympathy?
Er, the words “of course I sympathize with him”.

Confusedbeetle · 18/11/2019 11:20

He did not defend him. Please stop the Johnson vitriol

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