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to be outraged by Nativity casting as 'Innkeeper's wife'!!!

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PIPERHELLO · 15/11/2019 09:26

Daughter (6) has been cast as 'someone's wife' in the Nativity play at school. 'Innkeeper's wife' to be precise.

Err...hello!?

This is fucking not OK! In 2019, to be identified as 'someone's wife'.

Normally I am pretty relaxed about all things school, and I certainly feel sorry for he teachers' workloads, but come on people!? This is 2019 - no woman should be identified by her relationship to a man!? SURELY!

Itching to call them out on this. Itching!

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banamarama · 15/11/2019 18:48

Oh my lord this would never cross my mind. Yes let's bring it up to date - how about the innkeepers bit on the side?

I don't get what you want - should the innkeeper have had a husband instead?

paperbeatsrock · 15/11/2019 18:48

Outrage fatigue here – talk about drip drip drip...
As someone nicely summed it up hundreds of posts ago: Jesus wept.

Elbowedout · 15/11/2019 18:49

I was the Narrator every single, sodding year from Reception to my last year in juniors. Each year as Christmas approached I hoped that for once, I might get a role in the actual play and get to dress up instead of having to wear my school uniform. Anything would have done. Inn keeper's chicken, shoveller of sheep shit, just anything. But no, every cast announcement would start with the pretty blonde girls cast as Mary and Angels and finish with "..and the Narrator will be Elbowed." Now that was outrageous.
It did actually have a huge impact on my self confidence as a young child and it was one of the many things that my bullies enjoyed.
I wouldn't be a teacher for anything and I know many do a brilliant job, but I do think that the messages given out at this early age can stick. In this instance, it would be fairly easy to call the characters Mr and Mrs Innkeeper or Innkeeper 1 and 2 and given a subtly different but important message.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 15/11/2019 18:51

The comment which said ‘my son was usually livestock’ an absolute classic
Well, Ox apparently go on to earn circa £43k in adulthood so, not bad, not bad. Marys go on to be very successful on social media but, as yet, no word on Innkeepers’ Wives.

CareOfPunts · 15/11/2019 19:00

True @TriangularRatbag but some people do confuse it with the Virgin birth

CareOfPunts · 15/11/2019 19:01

My son was “Shepherd 9” in his nursery nativity. Were there even 9 shepherds?

Chloemol · 15/11/2019 19:02

It’s a play, innkeepers do have wives, get over it.

DioneTheDiabolist · 15/11/2019 19:03

Yep, 9 shepherds, 5 sheep. That's why shepherds were so poorly paid back then.

CareOfPunts · 15/11/2019 19:06

Well there might have been shepherds 10 and 11 too. I mean I’m sure MY son couldn’t POSSIBLY have been the last shepherd. Grin

Fishcakey · 15/11/2019 19:07

It's not shit it's tradition.

GaaaaarlicBread · 15/11/2019 19:08

❄️

81Byerley · 15/11/2019 19:10

@FenellaMaxwell Hahaha!

toothfairydb · 15/11/2019 19:24

Personally, I would have given the innkeepers wife a name. I have read the name as Seraia, Esther and Hannah in numerous texts.
The role should be cast as
Esther (Innkeepers wife) : “ and I will help deliver the baby” or whatever line your daughter has.

TheNestedIf · 15/11/2019 19:25

Nor sure what you're complaining about. Last time I was in a Nativity, I was cast as a bear. A fucking bear! Who the hell keeps bears as domestic livestock?!

cravingmilkshake · 15/11/2019 19:37

Should you be referring to your daughter as daughter? Should she just be "someone" ?

Redspider1 · 15/11/2019 19:41

The immaculate conception doesn’t relate to Mary’s pregnancy with Jesus AFAIK

Am I in a parallel universe?

LadyPenelope68 · 15/11/2019 19:42

And this is why teachers hate doing the nativity as there's always THAT parent.

Bodyposiftw · 15/11/2019 19:42

I just hope that the other inkeeper is a wife too. I am sick and tired of the heteronormative agenda being pushed all the time. Cos you know , drip drip drip and if we have robots and Xmas trees then we should demand gay couples too.
Disclaimer, I actually think the gay couple would be a nice idea. But to argue that not bringing such and such change is actively promoting discrimination is unbelievably farfetched.

Anotherlongdrive · 15/11/2019 19:42

@Redspider1 it's the conception of Mary

Fruitteatime · 15/11/2019 19:44

Actually those saying this is ridiculous would has anybody heard of the part of innkeeper's husband? I guess not as it just doesn't happen. For that reason I do think yanbu because it just continues to perpetuate out dated stereotypes. Although pp did point out that the play is set in history where women wouldn't have been innkeeper's.

Bringofbridge · 15/11/2019 19:45

The immaculate conception doesn’t relate to Mary’s pregnancy with Jesus AFAIK

Am I in a parallel universe?

But the immaculate conception doesn't relate to Mary's pregnancy with Jesus, and in 2000 years it never has. The immaculate conception refers to Mary's conception, not Jesus'. Mary was conceived free from original sin, which is referred to as the immaculate conception.

Then however many years later she fell pregnant with Jesus. Allegedly.

OnTheFenceWithMostViews · 15/11/2019 19:47

Omg. Speechless!
Lighten up. Stop being so pathetic and precious.. Don't be one of 'those' parents

Fruitteatime · 15/11/2019 19:48

I should have proof read my comment, sorry for the mistakes.

Redspider1 · 15/11/2019 19:48

Yes you’re right , I meant the virginal(not vaginal) birth of Jesus,not Mary’s conception. OP is happy to accept that tripe but not an innkeeper’s wife.

BertrandRussell · 15/11/2019 19:48

“ The immaculate conception doesn’t relate to Mary’s pregnancy with Jesus AFAIK

Am I in a parallel universe?”

Nope.

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