to be outraged by Nativity casting as 'Innkeeper's wife'!!!

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Daughter (6) has been cast as 'someone's wife' in the Nativity play at school. 'Innkeeper's wife' to be precise.

Err...hello!?

This is fucking not OK! In 2019, to be identified as 'someone's wife'.

Normally I am pretty relaxed about all things school, and I certainly feel sorry for he teachers' workloads, but come on people!? This is 2019 - no woman should be identified by her relationship to a man!? SURELY!

Itching to call them out on this. Itching!

JusticeforSandra anyone is allowed to be outraged by anything. Most of us don't feel the need to start a thread or complain to overworked teachers about the fact that some things were not PC 2000 years ago and how dare teachers not lie about it. They lie about lobsters and tomatoes si they should also lie about everything else. Obviously.
I myself can't believe that they are not making up that Jesus had ginger hair like me. How very uninclusive .

Male role = an actual role; Female Role = male's dependent"

I do slightly see what you mean. The phrase The World and His Wife odd really jarring. But if children’s unconscious script about life roles will be influenced by this nativity , then I can trust that the story being set 2000 years ago will also will flesh out the context for the wife appendage role.

Lol JusticeforSandra I am pretty sure you and I agree a lot more than we disagree!

Jesus wept.

So she was old enough to be married in the middle east at the time? So child marriage is ok? let alone impregnation. And she needed to be a virgin to prove it was gods child? Even though that bit is clearly a fairy tale. And 'primary sources'? What the old beardy misogynists who wrote the crazy story in the frst place, conveniently leaving out her age.

*for almosthuman

@BertrandRussell re someone being defined as being someone's husband - I give you -Prince Phillip
And in doing so, completely miss the point. If you’d have said - I give you - The Queen’s husband!’ And that’s all we knew him as, nothing about him, what he does, or even his name, then you’d have a point.

Hilariouser and hilariouser

In this instance the innkeeper doesn't have a name! Would honour be satisfied if they were called Ron (innkeeper) and Doreen (innkeeper's wife)? Should Doreen have a proper backstory, so we know something about her? Maybe she could have her own prologue at he beginning, in which we learn that she's an accomplished carpenter who was put out of business by Joseph, who's really not the nice guy he's cracked up to be, and that the innkeeper is an exploitative cocklodger.

Also, the shepherds must have names. And the ox. And it's demeaning to refer to Jesus as the son of God. He's a person in his own right FFS.

I think you're being a bit over the top. That's how things were 2,019 years ago in Bethlehem. It's not set in 2019 London. You'll give your daughter a complex! It's a Nativity, you can't choose who she plays, she probably can't choose who she plays. I have 3 daughters and they all wanted to be angels. The youngest was cast as an angel, the middle one was cast as Mary and the eldest was cast as a sheep! Lol

My DD also had this role. But the inn keeper had no speaking part, the inn was named after her, and she was the bossy one. I thought it was quite a good part, as did she as the boy playing the inn keeper was her nemesis.

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I just read your post out to my colleagues, we all hooted

Who cares! It’s a made up story from thousands of years ago. Get a grip!

The teacher probably didn't write the script. The school probably bought it from one of those companies who haven't updated their scripts by removing racist jokes either. If you know the name of the play, it's probably best to contact the company that sells that script.

Off subject but I heard a radio presenter announce that Jamie Cullum had become a father because his wife had given birth. His wife wasn't named. His wife is Sophie Dahl.

There is a married couple I know, John and Susan, I know them both equally. If I'm chatting to John, he never refers to Susan, he just refers to her as 'my wife'. She has a name FFS!

Op seriously.

2000 years' ago. The norm

At least she has a role

PM me babe

If the roles were renamed as the innkeeper's wife's husband, and the inkeeper's wife's husband's wife, would that be better?

Still purports the gender binary.

I agree OP. The parts could be innkeeper 1 and innkeeper 2. It's absolutely casual sexism to cast someone in the role of someone's wife. You wouldn't see it the other way around.

I’d love to know if any of the posters having such fun on here at the OP’s expense are the same posters who complain about how unfriendly, dismissive and bullying the FWR boards are. Just a thought....

I’m someone’s wife. He’s my husband. I’m also a sister, aunt, great aunt......what am I not getting?

are the same posters who complain about how unfriendly, dismissive and bullying the FWR boards are.

I think bitter, ridiculous and embarrassing are more the adjectives that come to mind about these boards

“ I’m someone’s wife. He’s my husband. I’m also a sister, aunt, great aunt......what am I not getting?”
OK. Assuming you are being serious.

The point is that this character is being identified solely as somebody’s wife. Not “the innkeeper’s wife, Rebecca” just the innkeeper’s wife.

Lol this must be a joke if not Christ grow up .I am my husband's wife I have had people say oh your so and so,s wife yes I am did I take offence no . But worse than that I am also described as so and so.s mum granny Christ I am so offended not to be described. As a middle aged working self reliant person .

“ I think bitter, ridiculous and embarrassing are more the adjectives that come to mind about these boards ”

Blimey. I’ll cross you off the BIg List of Feminists, then.....