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Boiled eggs on a train court case

326 replies

Iamthewombat · 12/11/2019 21:35

Does anybody else feel sorry for the woman prosecuted for objecting (quite vigorously, I admit) to somebody eating smelly hard boiled eggs on an early morning train?

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/city-worker-flew-into-rage-at-commuter-over-boiled-eggs-breakfast-on-train-from-chelmsford-to-a4284821.html

Because I do.

The boiled egg eater is the very definition of a drama queen. According to the story, she had already been told by a different passenger that the smell of her eggs was offensive but carried on regardless.

After being challenged by the woman who was later prosecuted, she pretended that she couldn’t speak English, then told the police about the altercation. Then pointed the other woman out to police when she saw her on the train five days later!

I know who I support, and it’s not the anti-social egg eater. Who apparently had to eat her eggs in a public place ‘because of her diet’.

OP posts:
LaurieMarlow · 13/11/2019 08:53

Well you said this next

Direct quote

I can't believe people would defend it just because it's healthy snack! What stupid fuckery is that? Same can be said for fried chicken

LaurieMarlow · 13/11/2019 08:55

Eggs are stinky though

It’s subjective though. I don’t think eggs are particularly stinky, you do.

You don’t think sushi smells. Lots of people disagree.

blueraindrop · 13/11/2019 08:55

She shouldn't have verbally abused the lady but omg people are so so super selfish these days. I think the judge should have thrown the case out tbh.

blueraindrop · 13/11/2019 08:57

I do think a ban on eating on short train journeys is a must though. These commuter trains aren't that long so unless there's a really medical issue which you can provide paperwork for no eating would be healthier all round.
And yes I used to be a lazy commuter who cba to get up early enough to eat my breakfast at home too.

ShatnersWig · 13/11/2019 08:59

I have a real aversion to the smell of eggs. I once threw up purely due to the smell of eggs. There have been occasions where trains are some rammed with people standing in the aisles and if I couldn't get away from the stink, egg eater could have ended up covered in vomit.

But, still the case that woman shouldn't have been verbally abusive. I think one of the issues is applying things with an even hand - I've seen and heard people being obnoxious on trains and guards doing sod all about it.

Egg eater didn't help the situation with her shoulder shrugging attitude, though.

JinglingHellsBells · 13/11/2019 09:02

Anyone who behaves aggressively to another person in public and frightens them should be punished. I was recently shouted at in a shop by a woman with MH issues (clear for all bystanders to witness) and it's terrifying as I thought she was going to hit me. (This was all because I'd glanced at her when in the queue.) The woman who didn't like the smell of eggs was out of order and her behaviour was scary for the egg eater.

Tvstar · 13/11/2019 09:04

The eggs are irrelevant. She threatened and intimidated a stranger. That is what the case is about.

Howgreenwasmyvalley · 13/11/2019 09:06

As someone who started commuting in the 60s, no one ever ate or drank on the train unless it was a long distance train with a buffet car and even then they ate in there.

Can't people go an hour or more without having to eat or drink anymore?

JinglingHellsBells · 13/11/2019 09:12

But it's not about eggs.
I can't stand the smell of many foods on trains, be it pasties, eggs, fast food like curries in a box, or whatever. That's not the point though.

People should be able to eat without being verbally abused and threatened.

I agree eggs can stink and a lot of people would be mindful of that, but, decades back it was quite normal to take out your egg sarnies on a long distance train journey and people just accepted that.

MrsFoxPlus4Again · 13/11/2019 09:20

I laugh at the amount of people on previous threads that get upset about food smells. As if someone is dangling warm dog shit under their nostrils 😂. Some food is a bit smellier than others, iv never known it to cause such a uproar as it does on here. It’s the same people that complain about smelling other people’s shampoo, fabric softener, perfume from a mile away 😂

PassMeAnotherCoffee · 13/11/2019 09:50

This clearly needs saying again.

Abusing and threatening your fellow commuters is a crime known to the law of England.

Eating an egg is not.

I do not feel sorry for the woman who was prosecuted.

I'm allergic to perfume. It makes me feel very unwell, gives me a headache and can make me vomit. I have never abused someone for wearing it.

ProfessorSlocombe · 13/11/2019 09:54

186 posts in, and no one thinks that the 12 people on the jury might have (a) had all the evidence and (b) reached a unanimous decision ?

If this is the "wrong" verdict, then it's 12 of your peers that seem to agree with it.

AlmostChristmas2019 · 13/11/2019 09:57

I didn't even know boiled eggs had a smell and I eat them fairly often (not on trains, though)

TheSmallClangerWhistlesAgain · 13/11/2019 09:58

Boiled eggs smell like dog farts. I wonder what the outcome would have been had the offensive smell come from an actual farting dog? I'm also wondering whether those who are on the side of eggy woman are the same people who get incensed by dogs on trains.

ShatnersWig · 13/11/2019 09:59

Professor The jury did, however, clear the defendant of a racially aggravated public order offence when the egg eater had tried to imply racism played a card.

PreseaCombatir · 13/11/2019 10:00

I don’t think there was a jury? Just a magistrate, surely?

PreseaCombatir · 13/11/2019 10:01

Wow, I assumed it was just a summary hearing. So there was actually a trial?

loobyloo1234 · 13/11/2019 10:02

I didn't even know boiled eggs had a smell and I eat them fairly often (not on trains, though)

Confused

How bloody selfish of that self entitled egg eater? I just don't know why she thought that was ok. Trains are small enclosed spaces, you smell everything on there. I feel like there must be more to this story though for her to get found guilty of something that sounds so pathetic and minor in the grand scheme of life

Trewser · 13/11/2019 10:07

Both as bad as each other. I love a hard boiled egg but would never eat one on a train, in fact I would never eat anything on a train. And the shouter needs anger management classes.

Trewser · 13/11/2019 10:08

I have literally just eaten a hard boiled egg. It did smell quite strong. Was delicious though with a bit of salt and pepper. But I am alone apart from a labrador who smells worse tbh.

Dontdisturbmenow · 13/11/2019 10:10

She claimed racial discrimination when she pretended she couldnt understand English conveniently so that she could ignore the comments.

Funny how she suddenly could understand every words when she didn't like what was said.

Personally, I think people who provoke others, by ignoring their plea and/or taunting them are as guilty of bullying.

DiabloDi · 13/11/2019 10:11

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ProfessorSlocombe · 13/11/2019 10:13

Professor The jury did, however, clear the defendant of a racially aggravated public order offence when the egg eater had tried to imply racism played a card.

so ?

If we all want law and order to work in this country (although a casual glance through MN might shake that assumption) then we have to accept the jury got it right. So yes; the "racially aggravated" bit was bollocks, but the underlying offence "intentionally causing harassment, alarm or distress" was proven. Certainly enough that 12 people agreed.

I don’t think there was a jury? Just a magistrate, surely?

It was in the opening sentence of the news article we all read before piling in here.

We did all read it, didn't we ?

Mistigri · 13/11/2019 10:17

Personally, I think people who provoke others, by ignoring their plea and/or taunting them are as guilty of bullying.

That's not what the law says though.

If you harass someone while they go about their lawful business, you have broken the law.

The egg eaters could have been more considerate, but being smelly on public transport isn't illegal.

TheShepherdsCrown · 13/11/2019 10:17

Ok I wouldn’t eat a boiled egg on public transport but what has really got my goat is the blatant agism from a previous poster

@schnubbins
Do you just automatically call women, old bags because they do something you wouldn’t? Using age as an insult regardless of their actual age.
Or did you glance at the pictures in the link and lazily make an agist and incorrect assumption that the egg eater was the 50 year old woman because, well, she’s older than the other one.