To boot everyone off my netflix account?

[Crazyoldmaurice]

Had a long shitty day and feeling rather rotten with a sore throat. Finally got my 4&2 year old in bed and have been looking forward to keep watching unbelievable on netflix but lo and behold theres too many devices currently watching!

My inlaws are watching only fools and horses in bed on the iPad (fil has the bloody boxset on dvd) and either my mum/bro/sister are watching The Sinner. I feel bad for my inlaws as they are both poorly with chest infections but ffs, I bet if my mum is watching shes bloody fallen asleep.

Aibu to boot them all off so I can watch it?

I can't see how it's stealing though. Four devices can use it, why do Netflix care which four at any one time? It might be a breach of the terms, but that doesn't make it stealing

I said it's the equivalent of stealing.

If he didn't set it up on my TV I wouldn't buy it, I never have in the past, so Netflix aren't losing anything by me using his

Perhaps in your one case. But don't try to tell me you can't see how millions of people sharing their passwords with all their friends and extended family loses Netflix money. Nobody would be that obtuse.

You didn't say "equivalent of" until the second time you posted about it in fact.

I wasn't talking about millions of users, I was talking about me. If Netflix allow it to be used on four devices then why do they care which four use it at any time? Seriously, how does this affect them?

If they believe that other households would pay for it if they couldn't access it elsewhere then they need to include the technology that stops it being possible to do this - other providers manage it.

You didn't say "equivalent of" until the second time you posted about it in fact.

Yawn.

I wasn't talking about millions of users, I was talking about me. If Netflix allow it to be used on four devices then why do they care which four use it at any time? Seriously, how does this affect them?

Ok... but in this discussion your personal individual case is totally irrelevant.

If they believe that other households would pay for it if they couldn't access it elsewhere then they need to include the technology that stops it being possible to do this - other providers manage it

They are apparently going to be doing so in the near future. HTH.

It affects them because their terms of service provide for one subscription per household.

They should be getting paid subscriptions from the OP’s household and both sets of parents households.

Sharing account details significantly hurts Netflix’s bottom line, which is why they intend to clamp down on it.

Account sharing costs Netflix up to $135,000,000 per month.

www.newsweek.com/netflix-password-sharing-october-2019-1466711

While my heart doesn’t exactly weep, account sharing is a shitty thing to do.

It only "costs" them if there is a loss. There is only a loss if the household not paying would buy it.

Having said that, Netflix does appear to be going bust, so their business model doesn't work at all.

I think those terms are new, by the way. I'm pretty sure sharing was allowed in the past. They obviously didn't think it through.

No, the terms aren’t new. Netflix has changed its attitude though (in its earlier days it saw account sharing as a positive means of marketing).

I agree that their losses arent really the full $135m per month but I suspect a good portion of the ‘sharers’ would sign up if they lost their free access.

@JacksonPillock

Ahhh, classic defensive response! Say 'YAWN' when you're called out as being wrong.

It may be against the terms and conditions for people who don't live with you to use your netflix account, but it is NOT STEALING. (Ya know, like you said it was!!! ) Not if you have given permission and your password LIKE THE OP HAS!!!

@PickleChips why is sharing your account with someone else a 'shitty thing to do?'

It's totally possible to do it, and MOST people are happy to do it. So it is not a 'shitty thing to do' at all.

Are you bitter because someone locked you out of their netflix account?

@MyBlueMoonbeam

I am sorry your account was hacked, but that's not really the same as the OP's situation. She has given full permission for her family to use it. Ergo, like with everyone else who gives permission, her family are NOT STEALING !!!

Is this all clear enough now JacksonPillock?

No need to be rude and call me names, purely for correcting you and calling you out.

I also think that it's an equivalent of stealing - you'd be obtuse to claim that people wouldn't stump up the (very very cheap!) subscription fee if they were booted off another person's account.

Netflix has always said the account is per household and I don't mind them clamping down on account sharing. Look at it this way - they've raised subscription fees recently by £2 per month (IMO still well worth the money), if people paid for their own accounts there wouldn't be a need to do this.

@VanGoghsDog why do you think Netflix will go bust?? I'd be devastated 😫

The fact that paying customers get charged more because people have the "I'm Alright Jack" attitude with their freebie Netflix is one reason why it's a shitty thing to do

I pay for the most expensive version of Netflix and I don't care if my mum or sister log in and use it - my rule is that they have to stay off my user! My parents wouldn't pay for it so I'm not denying Netflix paying customers. If they stop me from sharing my log in, I will downgrade to the cheap version do Netflix will be losing money from me.
It's not theft or the equivalent - I figure I am paying for it and it's up to me what I do with it

Netflix would put the cost up anyway. It's what companies do - look at Sky. Naive to think that if everyone got their own accounts Netflix would remain cheap.

Look at it this way - they've raised subscription fees recently by £2 per month (IMO still well worth the money), if people paid for their own accounts there wouldn't be a need to do this.

That’s not how businesses operate. The price rise is factored in regardless of how many customers are sharing passwords.

@JacksonPillock

They are apparently going to be doing so in the near future. HTH.

No they aren’t. They said they ‘want to’. Crucial difference. Netflix says: ‘it’s not changing anything in it s current terms and conditions, which allows for multiple people to use a single account depending on the Netflix plan.’ HTH.

Why do people speak with authority on things they know very little about?

If they don't pay they don't get a say. I pay for Netflix in my house and my lovely parents also use it so they pay half of the monthly cost as they think it wouldn't be fair them using it and me paying the hefty monthly charge.

We pay for premium which allows us 5 profiles - me, DH, (one telly, 2 iPads,) DD1 in France with 1 iPad, DD2 in Spain with 1 iPad and my parents in the UK with 1 telly.
I don't know how they can keep track of all that.
How do they define "a household" account?
What if I watch something on my iPad at my parents' house using my account but on their WiFi?

@JacksonPillock

Ahhh, classic defensive response! Say 'YAWN' when you're called out as being wrong

I said yawn to arguing about semantics. Cos it's boring.

As for being rude, you're the one who's incapable of having a conversation without being hostile and confrontational. It's like speaking to a moody 15 year old. I won't be responding to you again.

It's not theft or the equivalent - I figure I am paying for it and it's up to me what I do with it

Unfortunately that's not the case. When you sign up and pay your subscription, you agree to the rules, which as directly quoted earlier in this thread, state that you will not share your password with people outside your household.

No they aren’t. They said they ‘want to’. Crucial difference. Netflix says: ‘it’s not changing anything in it s current terms and conditions, which allows for multiple people to use a single account depending on the Netflix plan.’ HTH

Multiple people within one household.

It's already been quoted within this thread! But carry on being condescending! Makes you look very cool.

www.inc.com/jason-aten/netflix-isnt-cool-with-password-sharing-anymore-why-piracy-is-about-to-be-next-battle-in-streaming-war.html

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/netflix-password-sharing-account-details-friends-family-stream-a9162186.html

They are clearly going to [attempt to] put a stop to it in the not-too-distant future.

Jackson I don't really care about their terms and conditions. I figure Netflix don't either, or they would have stopped the ability to do this. I don't feel this is morally wrong since I am paying for it. I figure they probably get more money because people get the expense package with the intention of sharing.

@JacksonPillock

Not sure what quite you’re referring to but if you read Netflix’s statement you will see they say ‘We’re looking at the situation. We’ll see those consumer-friendly ways to push in the edges of that’ but adds that it it does not yet have ‘big plans’ about this.

Basically, they’re going to do nothing, it’s a holding statement.

How you extrapolate that into they’re going to clamp down on password sharing is laughable!

why do you think Netflix will go bust?? I'd be devastated

Well, since you think I'm obtuse I'm not sure why you'd ask me that 😘

They make massive losses. I doubt they'd go bust totally but the whole subscription media thing needs to change somehow.

I never had any access to it until I met current bf. He logged in at my house to watch a film or something. I'm personally not bothered about it.

Anyway, we know it's against the terms. And it probably affects Netflix revenue.
Though the terms are odd, I mean, going by the letter, a guest in your own house couldn't watch it as they are not technically part of your household.

But yet again single people have to pay more. Their single use package is not half the price of their multiple use package. So another single person tax.

Don't know why everyone is having a go at you OP. Nearly everyone I know shares some form of password. Most people are fair about it....others are just CF's

A few years ago I had the NOW TV entertainment pass. I shared this with a friend and for months not a problem. You could sign up for the sports/movies account free trials (which if you didn't cancel before the 30days you'd then be charged for).

I hadn't used my free movies trial yet and was waiting for there to be a good little selection so I could splurge and cancel before being charged. Christmas was coming up so had a few duvet days in mind over the holidays.

Well to my surprise, my friend set up the trial and started watching the movies! She didn't even tell me, I just noticed one day....nearly 2 weeks after she agreed to it. She claimed she was going to cancel it before the end but didn't understand why I was pissed off!! I cancelled the free movies trial and kicked her off. She added herself back (thought it was an error). I kicked her off again and was quicker to change the password saying I wouldn't be sharing going forward which she surprisingly understood.

She got a passive aggressive Christmas present that year of a 3 months Now TV pass....

Think I do need to stop sharing though. My parents are the worst. They pay for non of my subscriptions (Amazon or Netflix). They also used to use the Now TV one and when I went to cancel it my mum was so angry as she was watching a series. She got 2 months warning I was cancelling it. When the next season came out a year later she'd convinced a friend to share their details!

YABU to have given your Netflix subscription details to so many people in the first place! Where do you think the money comes from for Netflix to make all these amazing shows?? You are basically letting people pirate TV through your account. WTF?!

My daughter uses my netflix at university she is still part of my household she just doesnt live here 40 weeks of the year

I had a text from my daughters ex boyfriends mum asking for the password after we changed it (I’d never even spoken to her before).We have to change passwords a lot as daughters are always giving their friends our log in details, or logging in at other peoples houses and not logging out. Husband and I hardly use it, but if we do want to, and can’t get on, thats it!