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To resent buying the children presents?

141 replies

NovemberScrooge · 11/11/2019 20:38

We have quite a lot of people to buy for at Christmas, and we are on a low income. A close relative has four children, and every year she will message me by mid November, informing me what the children want for Christmas that year. This is never less than £20-30 a head, so I'm usually spending £80 minimum.

There is a bit of a weird dynamic in the family. These children are, frankly, spoiled, but combined with a minimalist/cleaning obsessed mother means that they basically have a moving line of toys coming through the house all year round. What happens is the child decides he or she is "into something", every related toy is bought, big fanfare is made, a few months later child is said to be bored of that character/toy and everything goes into the attic, charity shop or dump. Relative is quite open about this, it's all very "what can you do, that bores them now". For example, her youngest child was bought a huge expensive train set last year- it was in the attic by the end of February and on FB marketplace by April. They aren't allowed toys out on shelves or on the floor, their rooms are spotlessly clean but there are no pictures, shelvesit's literally a bed, chest of drawers, curtains and under bed storage for toys. I bought them special limited edition books for each christeningshe sent them to the charity shop as they were old fashioned and cluttered up the rooms. She encourages them to watch TV or go on their ipads so as not to mess up the house. Yet every year we're sent the list

Relative, however, never returns the favour for my two children. One of mine for example has a specific hobby and they prefer to be bought things relating to that - nothing overly expensive - relative says she'll get XYZ and then gets some piece of tat which is totally different. I suspect some of the things have been unopened regifts from her own children, which I wouldn't have a problem with only they generally an inappropriate age/some total crap from poundland/a character which my children haven't the least interest in. If she spends a tenner each I'd be shocked.

I know I may sound grabby, but I'm spending the guts of £100 on her children, money which to be quite honest I'd rather spend on nicer things for my own kids,who are often told they can't have an item due to expense.

Our presents to these children aren't appreciated or wanted past a few months - AIBU to think this is shit, and to stick a fiver in a card per child along with a box of sweets to share?

OP posts:
NovemberScrooge · 11/11/2019 22:38

I have been a mug, but in my defence it's been a slow burner. This side of the family have an otherwise good thing going, where if child A wants five things (for example) mum and dad will buy two of them (santa) granny will buy one, uncle Pete will buy the other, auntie Sheila the fifth. So the children aren't overwhelmed with shit, they get what they want, and life is easier for everyone. This of course massively relies on everyone doing their bit fairly... By the time we realised this relative was no longer keeping up her side of the bargain, I thought it wasn't fair to take it out on her kids. Then we had to tighten our own belts... Then we realised she was probably better off than us anyway... Then we realised she was dumping the presents after a few months so it made no difference to the kids either way

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 11/11/2019 22:41

Email to everyone:

We're having to tighten our belts this Christmas. Kids will get a fiver card/voucher each. Everyone else can buy their own! We don't expect anything either.

And relax...

Thestrangestthing · 11/11/2019 22:42

By them pajamas.

Andysbestadventure · 11/11/2019 22:43

"Sorry, we're just putting £5 in each card for the kids this year and from now on, they can put it in their piggy banks"

Problem solved. Fuck being dictated to.

KevinsCarter · 11/11/2019 22:44

Oh yes, we have this similar situation. I have to buy her 4 children a certain type of clothing each year. I say, it's expected and coerced by others. My one gets something back 1/4 the value I've had to fork out. I'm not even welcome at their get togethers because another family member has the hump with me. But I'm good enough to give things I could sell for free and presents birthday and xmas. I feel your pain OP.

Ginseng1 · 11/11/2019 22:45

Oh for crying out loud these Christmas threads drive me mad. So you were spending x (that u can barely afford) on her kids on the proviso that she spent back on yours to cover something off their list? Not sure which is worse. Just stop.

ChinaCat345 · 11/11/2019 22:45

Reminds me of my sisters kids who could only have Lindt chocolate Easter eggs as a minimum. Mine could make do with Cadbury’s and the like, but hers could only have the best.
Why do rich friends and relatives always have to have the best and we pander to it ?

SleepingStandingUp · 11/11/2019 22:46

Well you know how she treats them now so don't let her pick how much you spend on her kids. Still use the ideas but limit it to a tenner and cute financial hardship

VanyaHargreeves · 11/11/2019 22:47

Why on Earth do you do that @KevinsCarter ?! You fork out 300% of what they do, but you aren't even welcome to socialise with them?

What the hell?

Skysblue · 11/11/2019 22:48

But why? Why are you doing this? You’re presumably an adult? Ignore the list and if mentioned just say breezily oh we don’t do lists anymore.

We’re not low income and I spend max £10-15 on my nieces/nephews, just for comparison.

I feel very sorry for her children by the way but it is mad that you are doing this.

PickAChew · 11/11/2019 22:49

If they don't reciprocate with what your kids want, just buy what the hell you like and can afford for their kids.

MrsP2015 · 11/11/2019 23:12

I hate people doing this.
SIL used to 'tell' MIL to tell us what to get her child. It was usually something shit like a dressing gown. One year DH said he's not being the shit present uncle anymore and got him a really good toy... the following year SIL gave MIL (to give to us) the exact amazon link for a book. MIL ordered it before telling us so SIL wasn't upset like last year 🙄 ffs.

When people ask what to get dd I say ANYTHING they want as it's their gift, their choice. Then they can get socks or a big toy- dd is taught to appreciate everything.

Drabarni · 11/11/2019 23:17

glitter paint and craft activities. I dare you.
Slimey gunge, and a prankster kit. Not forgetting to put a whoopee cushion on her seat.
I couldn't resist, but do get in trouble.

yasle · 11/11/2019 23:20

Holy shit.
Just send a message saying you don't have enough money and you won't be able to exchange gifts this year, and let her know please not to buy anything for your kids.
Job done. One message and all this shit goes away. She can get the hump, you have to learn not to give a fuck. Take it from me, I've let cheecky fuckers get away with murder and now I don't let anyone get away with any shit with me. I just say no. They protest or don't like me, well who gives a fuck?

Staffy1 · 11/11/2019 23:22

Do what she does for your kids - ignore the suggested items and give something cheaper or re-gift something your kids don't want.

Purpleartichoke · 11/11/2019 23:31

Depending on my mood I would take one of three approaches

  1. family board game
  2. fiver each
  3. buy each child a thoughtful piece of plastic that their mother will hate but they will probably love. Bonus if it is something like a plastic flute.
Ivysaur · 12/11/2019 02:37

Family box for the relative including her children. No cash. Box with a voucher for place like cinema and sweets. Or an ice cream basket with all the toppings and extras for sundaes at home.

BOOnanasAreTheSourceOfEvil · 12/11/2019 02:41

Shoot her.

Failing that, book vouchers.

LimeRedBanana · 12/11/2019 02:54

I can see how this would be difficult situation IF she was really generous to your DC.

But she's not.

So ... Confused

Why do rich friends and relatives always have to have the best and we pander to it ?

'We' don't. You do. Ask yourself why - it seems like total madness, and you've no-one but yourself to blame.

Confused
SunniDay · 12/11/2019 03:39

How about..
We are trying to do our bit for the planet and avoid waste so are only buying "experience gifts" this year. Then get what you like e.g. a cinema voucher for the family to the value that you choose and some pick and mix/tin of sweets is nice. Perhaps there is a local attraction like a farm park that is not expensive and does a gift voucher if it is age appropriate or even a voucher towards pizza hut/Toby carvery or somewhere local.

Kokeshi123 · 12/11/2019 03:59

Either a fiver in a card. "Oh, you sent an email saying what they would like? Sorry, I must have forgotten about that"

or, email her saying "From this year, can we agree a set amount to spend on the children? I think an upper limit of 5 pounds works, so please don't buy our children anything more expensive than that. TIA" (don't ask the question, just state that that is what is happening.

She sounds awful, frankly.

Mummyoflittledragon · 12/11/2019 05:06

I don’t understand why you would give her a heads up. If you do, you’re still treating this relative better than she treats your children. That’s not ok.

Just do what she does. Token gifts but because you’re clearly a far nicer person, it will be something nice. Expect the shit to hit the fan. These people are of the belief that their children are more important than yours.

Don’t get drawn into right fighting or explanation. Your finances are none of their business and I wouldn’t be sharing. Decide on a line and stick to it. Perhaps something like “I thought it was ok to not stick to the list as you don’t.” And repeat in varying forms. “I’m sorry you’re upset. You don’t stick to the list so I thought it was ok.”

Teddy275 · 12/11/2019 05:53

Definitely stick a fiver in a card. I had a friend who did this- I would ask what her dd wanted for Christmas/Birthday and she would always suggest something that was around the £20-25 mark. Then my daughter would receive something worth a couple of quid at most- once was a colouring book that had already been coloured Shock
It wasn't the value of my daughters present that bothered me- I don't give to receive and now firmly believe that you don't go into debt for Christmas- but it was that she requested such expensive things from us knowing that she wouldn't/couldn't reciprocate. If people ask me I always suggest something in the region of what I want to spend on them, and just assumed was normal!
Now she just doesn't even bother waiting to be asked and just sends an Amazon wishlist around- there's not one item under £20! I've just been ignoring it for the last 3 years and this year we are going to see a show instead of presents! Could you suggest an experience of some kind for the children instead of plastic tat they will just shove aside?

WillLokireturn · 12/11/2019 06:22

Selection boxes, £2 each. Job done. My DCs love those, even the teens.
£4 tub of quality street if buying for adults.
You can't afford anything else. "We've cut back"
Let the rest of family do what they want with her. Youve spotted her CF- ery now and that her DCs barely benefit anyway.

DreamFever · 12/11/2019 06:22

I’d give her a heads up before she had a chance to produce a list. Say something like “our budget this year is £x per child” or “we’re only doing small token gifts this year” or “we’ve already bought Christmas presents”. Maybe even suggest that you stop exchanging gifts altogether.

And then ignore any suggestions for gifts that would cost £20 - £ 30.

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