To be very happy to hear that Labour will reinstate Sure Start?

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I had PND. I literally wanted to run away from my baby. I had no idea what I was doing.

One of these places (since massively cut) helped me enormously.

My dd now 13 and I benefited massively from attending groups at surestart and I met several lovely mums who I still chat to from time to time. However my ds was born 4.5 years later and the cuts were starting so we only had the option to attend 1 group a week.

When ds was born a sure start centre had just opened next to dds school. As a single parent on benefits, it was a life saver. Although my days of needing them are over, I'm still overjoyed to hear funding could be increased

This alone gets my vote.

To this day I don't understand the logic to cutting them.

They actually save money in the long term!

My DCs are nearly teens but I still remember how much they helped me in the early days. I'll be delighted if the funding is reinstated.

Sure Start would be great, I doubt a Corbyn govt has the financial nouse to actually fund it sustainably though.

As great as their "promises" are, you must ask...

How...
How will they fund it. How will they decide where and when. How long will it take. How, how, how ..

I could go and promise everyone 20k personal tax allowance🤷 Unless they properly explain HOW then it's just a dream

Unlike all the promises of Borisco Inc to increase police, NHS, education etc etc funding when for the last decade they were assuring us The Taxpayer couldn't afford it... But there's an election coming up, so now we can. Go figure.

My goodness yes please bring back services for young people!!!

@Lumene

That's just a standard retort to any promise made by labour. They could promise to continue paying policemen'a wages and someone would say 'but how could you afford it...'.

With taxes, that's how. This is what taxes are actually for. Not shite like minting Brexit fifty pences to be melted, silly initiatives like the 'northern power house', tax breaks for the rich and god knows what else they have literally 'spaffed up the wall'.

On the one hand, yes, I support the reinstation of SureStart centres.

But on the other, it makes me curse our stupid electoral system, which just flips between two opposites, with each undoing the other’s policies, only for them to redo them when they get back into power.

What a massive waste of money to have to rebuild them, when they could just have been kept.

We need a proportional electoral system which produces coalitions that are forced to compromise, and between which there is much more stability over the years. Then, actual progress would be possible.

I was working closely when the Sure Start programme was rolled out, and very good it was too. It was massively expensive. It was always planned to be a decreasing finance, hoping some would become self sustaining. The finances were put in place with a year on year reduction. This may feel like cuts but politically is a different matter. Labour are making some unsustainable promises.

With taxes is the standard pop up non answer

The children's centres are assigned loas if work by children's services - pre birth assessments and outreach work. If they collapse families will collapse it's that direct in some areas.

With taxes, that's how. This is what taxes are actually for. Not shite like minting Brexit fifty pences to be melted, silly initiatives like the 'northern power house', tax breaks for the rich and god knows what else they have literally 'spaffed up the wall'.

Yikes.

We really, really need to start teaching basic economics at school.

It was such a false economy to cut services like Surestart. I would be very glad to see these services reinstated.

It was a great service one of New Labour better projects

Cut massively under the coalition (mmm those LibDems supported this) - and then further under Conservative

I agree, @Jillyhilly

They could start at Eaton, judging by the current shower

I get that sure start helps families that are struggling but myself and my partner both worked full time but on low income. We couldn't use the childcare sessions as they were only two hours long and any information sessions or courses were mostly during work hours as well. Full time low income parents need help to. I feel like we fall through the cracks as we earn to much for any benefits help but not enough to actually live comfortably.

We really, really need to start teaching basic economics at school.

Yes, indeed we do. It's important for people to understand that public spending not the same as household spending, and that judicious investment in our young people will lead to growth in the long term.

I found being a first time mother hard and SureStart was so beneficial for me. I think it was a terrible idea to cut that service. I learnt things like baby first aid, breast feeding support etc. I also met lots of mums from different demographics (NCT seemed to be quite narrow in that respect). Although I no longer need it, I’d love it to be brought back so other new mums can benefit like I did.

People asking 'how will they fund it?' never seem startled when the Tories spend billions on fake campaign materials or propaganda.

The money's there. That isn't the mystery. How it is spent, that's the key.

Depends if you want Sure Start centres or a new moat around one of the lordship's castles.

People asking 'how will they fund it?' never seem startled when the Tories spend billions on fake campaign materials or propaganda.

I have always questioned where funds are coming from. Hence me not being in with Tories

Yeah I bet they will.

Labour are so weak in opposition I don't believe anything they say. & they're hardly champions of womens' rights and issues are they? If they get into power they'll do massive U-Turns on promises, claiming 'lack of funds'. They're interested in holding onto ministerial posts and associated privileges only.

I'm a lifelong Labour voter who won't be voting for this shower of lazy fuckers that's for sure. Tories have decimated society and Labour's response to that is akin to Tories being mauled by a mouse.

Well, according to the Andrew Marr Show this morning the Labour manifesto will be fully costed as it was in 2017 (unlike the Tory manifesto) and so we will have a very clear understanding of how it'll be funded in a few weeks ...

@TempestHayes

I never usually get involved in the political threads but I totally agree with you.

I was also left scratching my head when they found god knows how many millions ( or was it a billion) to pay the DUP after years of cuts here there and everywhere.