Bloody wanky neighbours

[Hereforinfo]

So here goes whether you believe or not believe me it’s all true.

My family were subjected to hate crime, being called spastics like our severely Autistic son, threats of violence, malicious communications, chants of we are all peados, sending people round to cause violence.

We reported all to police and didn’t want to get involved, saying it’s tit for tat, not providing any proof of this, police warned my husband when he wasn’t even present, he found this out at a later date when he reported something else.

We was physically attacked by other neighbours who were also calling us peodos, and came smashing on door.

Dh in garage on phone to 999, I thought he was outside so opened door, I got dragged out and dh saw this he came out on the phone, Shen tried snatching his phone, but didn’t get it, she spat in my face, and I pushed her back, whilst I wiped her spit from my face she dragged me down by my hair, dh put his arm around me and wasn’t getting me up when she bit him, and spat in his face.

Dh was wiping spit from his face when her partner put his hands up to my dh, my dh does martial arts, so he instantly went into combat stance, her partner then backed off, and as my dh turned to help me again he was hit from behind with a weapon causing injuries to his eye, and puncture wounds to his nose.

Police never attended in all that time, ambulance staff even stated that police should be here, and ambulance staff were verbally abused by the perpetrators.

So anyhow to apparent investigation, police say there is a witness who states I hit her first, which I believe to be biased, and is untrue as she has no marks and never reported to police either, and there is a video apparently which I would say is half way through, they state it shows my ds kicking the lady( he did this once) to help me it
Shows my dh being hit with no retaliation from him.

They then go on to say that, if we pursue the arrests of the perpetrators, we will be arrested for affray, because it shows my ds kicking he has special needs, he was just trying to help me but we was not the aggressors, nor was we fighting as they would have injuries which they don’t.

All children were present as we were moving out, all of them say the same, she spat at me, and dh was hit with a metal pointy object.

I don’t get any of it, I am missing my hair at the back because she pulled it out, my eye injury, and dh injuries.

Any help would be great, as police are crap.

Should we take our chances and be arrested, or let them get away with assaulting us?

As you have moved away (and presumably have no contact with the ex neighbours, and there's no way of them knowing where you are) then i think you have to think carefully about what you do now.

It sounds like you have been to hell and back, and have had little support from the police. To some this may all sound far fetched, but I personally know people have been targeted by their neighbours, and sadly this is very often people who have someone with some sort of difference in their family, whether that be learning disabilities, mental health issues, physical disability etc. The police are very often reluctant to get involved in such difficulties.

I think you need to get some proper legal advice before you do anything. Find a lawyer who will give you an initial hour or so for a fixed fee, and take it from there. You have to weigh up the chances of the neighbours actually being charged with offences against you (and the risks of counter charges) with the fact that you have moved and will all need to try and process this and move on from it. Although the CAB could be a starting point, as others have suggested, I really believe that you need proper advice from a trained and experienced lawyer.

I think the main thing is you have moved. It sounds like the police let you down badly. Pressing charges will mean you haven’t properly got away from these people. They will occupy a huge amount of your time and headspace for years to come.

I was in a situation (very different and involving ex) where I badly wanted justice but knowing his nature and evasiveness and knowing the battle would go on for years, I decided for the sake of my mental health to draw a line. That’s not to say I am not as angry as fuck and am still the victim of financial abuse that left me homeless, but I just want to live my life now without him in it.

The police don’t sound behind this and your neighbours will stop at nothing to fight you. While you are understandably wanting justice, I’m not sure if you will get it and if you do, at what price to your health.

@hoodathunkit that's the case that first sprung to my mind on reading the OP. Absolutely tragic loss of life where the police did far too little to late.

Have you moved far enough away from them not to bother you? If so I would just let it go as they sound like the sort of people to retaliate and they will continue to make your life a misery.

@Hereforinfo

A truly horrifying murder and one that could have been prevented if the police did their jobs properly

Disability Rights UK maye be able to help as they are familiar with this kind of situation

www.disabilityrightsuk.org/news/2013/november/dhcn-statement-bijan-ebrahimi-case

I would seek legal advice rather than ask on here, if you are set on pursuing it OP. The situation sounds horrendous. If you are hoping to pursue it then I would visit a police station and have the injuries logged, and go to your GP and do so.

Unfortunately OP, most people on here will have no idea what it is like living or working in certain environments, or the reality that the police generally won't attend if called. An ex DP worked in some fairly undesirable areas with bad reputations in his previous job and we were at our wits end. Very often (once weekly minimum) at work he'd be threatened with violence, assaulted, verbally abused, spat at. He was on more than one occasion threatened with a weapon, accompanied by verbal threats they would 'kill him' or 'come back after work'. The amount of times the poor man called 999 and was told it 'wasn't an emergency' 'call us again if they come back' and then when you do call back still nothing. There was regular theft but the police would rarely attend, when they did they'd arrive and admit they know who's done it but won't be pursuing it due to lack of resources (local petty criminals). It was infuriating and I worried about him endlessly.

It's unfair OP, but I would do what left my family safest. Log the injuries either way though.

The local authority have moved us 2 miles away from all the trouble, which is not far enough.

Thank you hoodathunkit for the link.

We have been trying to get advice about it all, and all the solicitors we speak with all say the same, Sue the shit out of the police, and judging your evidence, why have these neighbours not been arrested for various offences.

This is how scandalous the police are, my dh was arrested a few years back for a section 4 public order, the police had no evidence, and just someone’s word with no witnesses, they come around arrest him straight away, my dh actually proves section 4 against the neighbours and all we get is we can’t do anything about it.

This is what he has to put up with from our shite force, he feels they have discriminated against him, treated him unfairly to others etc etc.

Police never investigated a damn thing, closing our reports with no investigation, we sent about 50 clips to police, and all we got was that stupid letter, of we don’t have the resources to fight crime.

As someone who was attacked by 2 mums at the playground of my Ds's school, then arrested for affray as this incident took place on a playground.. then dragged through court system for 6 months only for them to agree in court that I was the victim in all this and my case got thrown out of court - id honestly say let it go, put your efforts into moving house and having a fresh start for your family.

Easier said than done I know, but truly its not worth the hassle of having to go through all the police stuff and court stuff... its only adds stress to your life that you do not need.

Alternatively can you possibly get cameras installed to provide back up to your story at least? no good for the past but would be a future deterrent to them.

We had cameras capturing everything that neighbour A and B were doing.

The police were not listening to us at all, ds gets stalked online we report this, officer says oh well that’s just nothing, see you later.

It was neighbour who is a grown adult trying to be friends with my ds on Xbox, we don’t even know how he found his gamer tag as ds Xbox is on complete lockdown.

We are in complete shock, that victims are treated in this manner, my dh is now going to take a solicitor up that stated you have enough evidence to sue your force for negligence, discrimination and failure of duties, breaches of the code of ethics.

Dh has also been advised to carry out private criminal prosecutions against all the perpetrators, as the solicitor feels its in the public interests, and it meets the evidence requirements to pass.

dh definitely wants to go further and get arrested, so he can claim unlawful detention

all the solicitors we speak with all say the same, Sue the shit out of the police

The Police are not to blame for your neighbours actions. And the idea that your DH should get himself arrested on purpose so that he can sue for unlawful detention is ridiculous. It would hardly be a case for some gross miscarriage of justice particularily now that you have just posted his intentions on here.

I think you mean wrongful arrest. Not wishing to state the obvious but wouldn't it be easier to not get detained arrested in the first place. Is it money you want?

OP - it is over. You have been moved. Be the adult here and tell your DH to let it drop. Be happy in your new home. All this anger you have is not helping you or your family move on from this. Let it go.

OP

2 miles away is not far enough and places your family in danger

I would seek advice from disability rights organisations and also consider contacting the journalists who covered the murder of Bijan Ebrahimi and ask if they are willing to cover your story

Also I would record all and any communications with the police if you have not already done so

good luck

OP - it is over. You have been moved. Be the adult here and tell your DH to let it drop. Be happy in your new home. All this anger you have is not helping you or your family move on from this. Let it go.

The family have been moved 2 miles away and the situation is dynamic and ongoing

The police may not be to blame for the ASB of the neighbours but they are to blame if they have not taken the assaults and threats seriously

We have if all recorded, threats from others, get a picture and we will find them and then get them, about sticking a knife right through my husband it has all been captured, reported to police and nothing.

As the law states death threats, is even if the person who is hearing it doesn’t have to take it seriously, but If another hears the same and takes it seriously then offence is complete, well I believed harm would come to us and it did.

Police have a duty to uphold the law as it is written, they are not the ones who make charging decisions the cps decide that, my husband even spoke with a member of the cps, as he asked whether police have discussed his case with them, they said no.

How can police not attend a house that has a marker on it? I’m serious my children with special needs were put in danger, and police allowed them to see us attacked.

Being devil's advocate, we are only hearing one side of the story here. It is odd that the husband was also arrested a few years ago for public order offences when there were apparently no witnesses. The OP and family seem to be innocent victims of random spurious accusations.

I also know that sometimes the police definitely do foul up and get things wrong. But I cannot imagine that they would simply ignore FIFTY videos of wrong doings.

Personal experience the police don’t give a shit the council couldn’t care less

They didn’t ignore the 50 videos, they sent us a letter stating they have not got the resources to deal with your crimes and to take civil action.

That’s what we got from them.

Had police attend property on one occasion causing dh of swearing at kids, he said give me time as the cctv is audio equipped, he looked at my dh and said I don’t know that.

hoodathunkit I am sure it is. And I agree that 2 miles is not far enough but that can be addressed separately.

But her DH getting himself arrested so that he can sue the police is not a good idea. The main thing to concentrate on is her family and keeping them safe - and not playing games with the legal system which will likely result in her DH getting a criminal record.

What incidents were depicted on the videos? It seems odd because if it was clearly criminal activity the police would be happy to take it up. Clear cut video of criminal activity would be a quick and easy win for them. Points in the "solved and dealt with" stats.

What dh means is that, if we pursue the arrests of the perpetrators, we will all be arrested for affray.

So he is seeking legal advice about it, because he was hit whilst not looking with a weapon, he was on phone to 999 as assault took place.

He says that maybe going through the justice system to prove our innocence might be worthwhile, dh is not saying he will get arrested for the fun of it, dh wants justice for all he/we have had to suffer.

Incidents depicted were death threats, abusing my children, threats of violence, chants of peados coming from all directions, others then jumping on the bandwagon, threatening to rip my kids head off, all is captured, drug dealing outside.

All is captured but nothing, even hate crime got it all captured.

All I can say is so sorry they haven't taken any further action.. also just do as your guts tell you and just pressure them as much as you can about it because someone else will move in there and they will have to live through it as well.. and you and your family need justice for that hell they put you through and your children... Where do you live? London area?

What dh means is that, if we pursue the arrests of the perpetrators, we will all be arrested for affray.

What do you mean by this?