Redundancies caused by Brexit

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The company I work for has announced this morning that, due to Brexit, our customers are holding off from placing orders, so redundancies must be made.

Aibu to think that those in the company who voted for this shambles, should stand by their vote and volunteer to take redundancy?

So people should now be punished for the way they voted?

I think the OP is saying everyone is being punished anyway!

No I don’t think you can expect that to happen OP but you can dream about it

Hope your job is ok

@GhooOOoultheCat

I think people should take responsibility for their actions.

Yep, those who chose Brexit can take the direct consequences. I’m fine with that.

Dh is facing the same and I can see why you feel that way, especially those who seem to insist even now that they knew what they were voting for. It would be nice to think that people would volunteer in this way but I am not sure there is any way to legally make them.

Ah the sunlit uplands they voted for. How lovely they're now reaping the consequences benefits.

Are you at risk OP? Hope you're ok

Reap what you sow.

I think it's a slippery slope when you're saying 'you voted for this, you should be punished'. I think people vote differently, and that's okay. I don't think it should be opened up to those who vote differently should have certain consequences.

What about people who didn't vote at all? They didn't vote for Brexit, but they didn't vote to stop it. Where do they fall?

Uncertainty is a bitch for investments and business. Perhaps save your opprobrium for those who have spent three years trying to derail Brexit at any or all costs?

Or reflect on the fact that Brexit is a far more palatable excuse than 'we fucked up' /'our business model is no longer valid'/'cut staff not profits' etc. I'm sorry you are in this situation, but your ire is misplaced.

Ah. Twatty. Another 'it's not my fault' Brexiter.

The day after the vote I predicted that Leavers will never take responsibility for the shitstorm they have unleashed.

I rest my case.

And it's not 'You voted for this, you should be punished', is it?

It's 'You voted for this so should be prepared to wear the consequences', isn't it?

Subtle but important difference.

So yes, I think if they have any conscience, I believe those who voted Leave should be first in line for redundancy.

Sorry to burst your bubble - I was a Remainer. I would still prefer not to leave, though not at the cost of decimating the economy and our democracy. I am not ignorant of how international markets work.

So you understand that 'Brexit' is a perfectly sound reason to give as to why a company is failing?

Falling value of Sterling?
Decimated workforce?

Technically they should. They thought it was a good idea, more fool them really.

But they won't. Most that voted for it are probably the executives who have enough money to not care, and will no doubt benefit from the redundancies as well.

Business is prepared for Brexit. It is the uncertainty and constant can kicking that is endangering jobs.

It wouldn't work. How would anyone know unless people announced it in the office?

Perhaps save your opprobrium for those who have spent three years trying to derail Brexit at any or all costs?

Would that be the core group of hardline Brexiteer MPs who have had several opportunities to vote for a deal and "get Brexit done" but instead voted against it...?

A bit unfair anyway as even if somebody voted for Brexit, they haven't got it. They aren't to blame for the cock up made of it.

Business is prepared for Brexit..... whaaaa?

What Brexit? No Deal? CU?

It's a nice sound bite, but it is my understanding that most smaller businesses are woefully under prepared for Brexit.

My DH's company is prepared for Brexit. They closed their graduate scheme the month after the Ref and have relocated their head office to Dublin. Is that what you mean by 'prepared'?

We haven't even left yet. Theses redundancies are due to 'uncertainty' and the people responsible for that are the politicians, who can't decide one way or another.

It's anyone, Venger, and everyone responsible for there still being no resolution, whether they voted Leave or Remain.

Uncertainty is a killer for business - if Brexit had been carried out whenever it was supposed to be in the spring, the uncertainty wouldn't be impacting OP's company today, with regard to people not placing orders etc.

Perhaps if we'd actually left on time then this wouldn't be happening. Most companies would rather that it was over and done with rather than have yet more delays.

Rainin there was no other model than 'cock up'.

I don't think our government have 'cocked up'. Given that there were 17.4m versions of Leave.

There was no way things were ever going to be different, whoever was running the show, given how few people had any grasp of the complexities of leaving the EU.

A lot more do, now, which is why our sovereign parliament is trying to avoid the shitshow that Brexit was always going to be.

Some of us recognised all this in June 2016.

Of course, though, there could be other Brexit-related issues, to be fair. But it's still true that some businesses are blaming Brexit when there's other reasons they are in the shit (cf diesel car manufacturers)

YANBU OP. They should volunteer for redundancy and tell everyone how their wartime spirit will get them through.