Redundancies caused by Brexit

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The company I work for has announced this morning that, due to Brexit, our customers are holding off from placing orders, so redundancies must be made.

Aibu to think that those in the company who voted for this shambles, should stand by their vote and volunteer to take redundancy?

Yes, I firmly believe Brexits should wear the consequences of their actions. They were warned, after all and dismissed it as Project Fear.

(They won't of course, as it is definitely always someone else's fault).

If I had a company, I had warned that this would be a likely outcome and my workers still loudly voted for it, I don't think I'd have too much of a job writing my redundancy list.

Oh, you don't think that sounds fair?

Get used to shitty decisions like this being made all the time about your job once Johnson tears up all the worker's rights agreements. You wanted it. You were warned. Here we go.

If this was the case why weren't they making redundancies several years ago? Perhaps it's the people derailing brexit that are to blame? The uncertainty is clearly the issue here as brexit hasn't even happened.

Perhaps those that voted remain and have behaved like spoilt children about it, thus forcing the country into the position it is now in, should be the ones made redundant 🙂

Perhaps you'd like to say which version of Brexit you voted for?

Perhaps you'd like to tell all the Leave MPs who have repeatedly voted against it in Parliament.

There's only one version of Remain. It's probably wanted by far more people than any version of Leave you've all made up in your heads.

The ERG and DUP have repeatedly voted against Brexit. It's Brexiteers who cant make up their mind about what Brexit means because they were sold a pig in a poke.🤷‍♀️

YANBU op

If only life worked like that

Given the vast array of expert (I know, I know) opinion that sterling will tank, the economy will shrink, prices will rise in the event of a hard Brexit, these companies wouldn't have to worry about 'the uncertainties' of Brexit, as they won't exist post Brexit.

I won't stand by and listen to blame shifting.

These companies are going under due to Brexit, which, contrary to being the 'easiest deal ever', transpires to be difficult and of necessity, drawn out. Rather obviously.

And why haven't we left? Because now the homework has been done, that which should have been done prior to offering a simplistic referendum on a complex, multifaceted issue (thus highly likely, not going there....) many in government realise Brexiting is a hugely damaging act of financial, political and social suicide.

And they want to step back from that cliff edge.

It was always going to be like this, and thus it has come to pass.

Voting Leave has caused this to happen.

there was no other model than 'cock up'

Quite, although I think SM/CU + full regulatory alignment + no border in Ireland might have been ok, @Miljah. Those who voted for Brexit may well have kicked off that it wasn't a big enough departure.

It just goes to show that there's no point in asking a binary question when there are a million different answers. The responsibility for that lies firmly with the previous Tory government, who put party before country in an utterly reckless fashion.

If they'd even been honest enough to have an "in principle" referendum, followed by a 2nd one when the terms of departure were settled, at least things would be clearer now.

It's the biggest and most successful con ever. Imagine being able to get people to cheer losing freedom of movement, worker's rights and lower food standards to name but a few. And they're still insisting they want it. I feel like I've gone mad.

Companies don’t really care about Brexit because the UK is such an important market that most businesses will eventually be able to weather the storm - it’s the prolonged uncertainty behind it that is affecting business.

Its a nice thought that people who voted for this should be first in the redundancy queue. Theres a certain irony to it.

However thats not going to happen. Were all in it together and have to suffer the effects of the lies, misunderstandings, hopes that were peddled 3 years ago.

Some of us saw through the smoke, some took it in hook, line and sinker and some voted leave for other, to them, well founded reasons.

Hope your job’s safe.

They should volunteer for redundancy and tell everyone how their wartime spirit will get them through.

They should also point out to management that "you need us more than we need you" and talk loudly about how they'll go and get lots of great new job opportunities with loads of other companies once they're free of this particular company.

Perhaps those that voted remain and have behaved like spoilt children about it, thus forcing the country into the position it is now in, should be the ones made redundant

The people in Parliament who have consistently blocked the passage of a deal are supporters if Brexit. They have had many opportunities to bring an end to it by voting for a deal and actually facilitating the UK leaving the EU.

There's only one version of Remain

Exactly.

Brexiteers: "We want Brexit!"
Government: "Okay, let's Brexit."
Brexiteers: "No, not like that."
Government: "Like this then."
Brexiteers: "No, not like that either."
Government: "Then how?"
Brexiteers: "By Brexiting!"
Government: "Well here is a deal, let's Brexit."
Brexiteers: "Oh no, not like that either."
Government: "So how!?"
Brexiteers: "Umm.... We want Brexit!"
Repeat ad infinitum.

Remainers demands: "Let's just cancel the whole thing, eh?"

Fully agree. This is why i am entertained by Nissan stopping a shift and having to deny selling the factory.

There's no smoke without fire and in this case, the smoke is the turkeys who voted for Christmas getting burned.

Good.

DH is facing redundancy. His company has prepared for Brexit by closing their UK site.

Fierce remainer here but, your post is idiotic.

A lot of companies are closing sites and also starting 5-10 year projects to open new ones. A lot of manufacturing and tech companies are doing this

Companies don’t really care about Brexit because the UK is such an important market that most businesses will eventually be able to weather the storm -

Companies do care. A lot. The EU is a much bigger market than the UK alone. Also, being part of a trading bloc reduces red tape and is better for JiT manufacturers and small businesses that trade internationally.

The EU deserves it’s share of the blame with the uncertainty. For example if Singapore can be given free trade access to the EU then the posturing and bigging up of the uncertainty behind the UK getting it should never have happened. Everyone in business knows that in 5-10 years Brexit And it’s difficulties will be ironed out. And yes while the EU is a big trading bloc the UK is a gateway Asian / US market and this element will become even more important post-Brexit. A lot of EU companies that trade in Asia (or want to become bigger there) are creating jobs / UK companies. The UK is also one of the biggest individual consumer markets in Europe but due to complex EU tax rules a lot of companies could hide UK profits - this won’t happen any more. So once the uncertainty disappears everyone will eventually see how much profit UK businesses do make.

Regarding JiT manufacturing - considering the UK is one of the biggest European consumer markets for the products manufactured in this way, long term it will always be important. Hence why car manufacturers that are closing UK sites are also creating 5-10 year projects to open new ones.

It took the best part of a decade for the Singapore EU trade deal. If we Leave in 2020, maybe we too can have one in place by 2030.

Alternatively we could Revoke and have one now

You really think Germany / France etc will wait 10 years to produce a trade deal with their biggest individual consumer market?

Trade deals are not about countries "waiting" they're about negotiation and legislation. Germany and France are not the EU, there will be 28 countries party to any EU trade agreement with post Brexit and the negotiations on any trade agreement havent even started yet. Brexit will only be the beginning.

YANBU and it's not punishing them for their vote either - it's saying stand by what you voted for. If you voted for brexit and as a result your company is making redundancies I think yes they should go first - reap what you sow and all that

how far do you think this should be taken/ if conseravtives make cutbacks in the NHS should nurses who voted for them be first to go?

What about the people that didn't vote at all?

*It took the best part of a decade for the Singapore EU trade deal. If we Leave in 2020, maybe we too can have one in place by 2030.

Alternatively we could Revoke and have one now*

You have to be a special sort of stupid to believe that one stand-alone country is going to be able to get trade deals as favourable as those enjoyed by a consortium of 28 nations, of which it is currently a member.