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If you buy cannabis you are an accessory to the modern-day slave trade that caused the death of the 39 in the shipping container

186 replies

Parsimon · 26/10/2019 13:11

I hate the fact that so many people in this country blissfully ignore the human misery behind the drugs they consume, whether it’s working class kids being stabbed because of their involvement with the gangs that supply cocaine to middle-class dinner parties or the “just a spliff” crowd who are fuelling modern slavery from predominantly Vietnamese trafficked immigrants, often children.

If you grow your own and trace to source everything else then you’re only harming yourself, but I expect that the vast majority of drugs users don’t actually do that.

Excellent article in the Guardian today about the children having to work to support UK cannabis consumption.

amp.theguardian.com/society/2017/mar/25/trafficked-enslaved-teenagers-tending-uk-cannabis-farms-vietnamese/

OP posts:
Evilmorty · 26/10/2019 14:40

We have 8 nail bars (and eyebrow bars) on just our parade of shops. I had honesty never considered them to be a front Blush I did wonder why we needed so many and they don’t even seem to be in competition with each other price wise. I don’t get my nails done, I paint my own just as well.

JoinTheMicrodots · 26/10/2019 14:42

ODFOD.

🙄🙄🙄

smemorata · 26/10/2019 14:45

Same goes for cocaine. I know someone very moral when it comes to animal rights, feminism who uses it - completely hypocritical to ignore the misery it causes.

lazylinguist · 26/10/2019 14:46

YANBU. Angry at the posters who are in denial and don't care, or who think that just because they get theirs from a friend, the problem apparently doesn't exist.

thatwasMauijustmessingaround · 26/10/2019 14:49

That's one of the saddest things I've read in a long time OP.

IamPickleRick · 26/10/2019 14:50

I feel really sick reading that article.

A drug factory was found 4 doors down from us on our balcony of flats. There are only 6 flats in total on that floor. I was a SAHM, I knew all the neigbours but I never saw anyone go in or out of this flat. We had an issue with the lights on the stairs going out and no one knew who to contact for repairs. I knocked on the door to ask because I was thinking it might be an elderly person and that’s why I’d never seen them. It had triple curtains up, you couldn’t see in through the letter box. I even left a note saying not to worry, the neighbours were all trying to find someone to fix the lights.

Could there have been slaves in there? That thought is actually quite horrifying. Poor poor souls. Could they have been inside and afraid when I knocked Sad

PhilSwagielka · 26/10/2019 14:53

This is why I don't want to touch coke, because of the impact it's had on Colombia and Guinea-Bissau. That and I like my nose, and it turns people into annoying wankers.

JeansNTees · 26/10/2019 14:53

YANBU. If people stopped using (raping) people who have been trafficked for sex, using dodgy nail bars and car washes, that would be a good start.

saltandvinegararethebest · 26/10/2019 14:56

What does ODFOD stand for? Can't find it in list

Slightaggrandising · 26/10/2019 15:01

It stands for Oh Do Fuck Off Dear. Here, synonymous with the poster of it having her head buried in the sand.

Toooldtobearsed2 · 26/10/2019 15:01

@56saltandvinegararethebest Oh do fuck off dear😊

My main problem at moment are car cleaning outlets.
I live very rurally, but within a seven or eight mile radius, there are several hand washes for cars. I have never used them ( my vehicle is wayyyyyy past getting clean), but have seen 6 or 7 youngish men hanging around waiting for business.
I assume they are immigrants, they just look so very sad.

LizzieVereker · 26/10/2019 15:02

saltandvinegararethebest ODFOD - stands for “Oh do fuck off dear”.

.Parsimon I completely agree with you. People don’t want to acknowledge the scale of human trafficking into the UK.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 26/10/2019 15:03

Yep. And this is why I believe that cannabis should be legalised, controlled and taxed properly.

I get my nails done but at the salon I go to the employees are white British. I wouldn't use any other salons as I don't want to potentially support an industry based on slavery.

Drabarni · 26/10/2019 15:04

Getting it off a friend who grows it themself doesn't mean we don't know the problems that exist.
But we can hardly be blamed for these problems anymore than those who don't take it.
I think posters are saying this because the OP is title is obviously wrong.
Plenty people smoke cannabis who aren't a part of the problem.
At my age I'm hardly going to meet a dealer on a street corner, or in a pub etc.

Dramaofallama · 26/10/2019 15:05

I am surprised that some people wasn't aware of this Confused
It has been known for years that quite a few cannabis farms where run by traffickers and using mainly Vietnamese people to maintain them. Most don't see the light of day for months at a time Sad

Nail bars, massage parlours, restaurants, pop up car washes are also hot spots for traffickers to place them.
I remember reading ages ago about one of the survivours of the Morcombe beach tragedy saying they were hot spots but traffickers often shuffled them about before suspicions arose.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 26/10/2019 15:05

I do my own nails, never been comfortable in a wine bar.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 26/10/2019 15:05

Nail bar

DaveMyHat · 26/10/2019 15:07

One of my best friends at school was Vietnamese (she was born here but parents were born in Vietnam) and she sometimes helped out in her parents nail shop, and I know they owned a few. She told me that a lot of vietnamese people work in or own nail shops. Is that likely to have been something dodgy too? Her parents were a bit strict and overprotective but otherwise seemed nice. I can't imagine them being involved in something weird. I do understand that obviously not every single nail bar will be exploitative, but how can you tell which are? There has to be some genuine ones that I wouldn't want to lose business because people assume they're doing something illegal when they're not. I never actually get my nails done, I'm just curious about it.

saltandvinegararethebest · 26/10/2019 15:07

Cheers, @Toooldtobearsed2 @LizzieVereker @Slightaggrandising

A new one to add to my collection...

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 26/10/2019 15:09

Car washes can be dodgy too.

Picklypickles · 26/10/2019 15:10

lazylinguist - never said the problem doesn't exist, said I personally am not contributing to it through my personal cannabis use. I know a lot of people who grow their own or buy it from a friend who grows it for personal use.

thedancingbear · 26/10/2019 15:13

Well said, Parsimon.

I am sure we agree that the sooner cannabis is legalised, the better.

Parsimon · 26/10/2019 15:14

I should clarify: there are plenty of legit nail bars. In this country, there are no legit drugs, and most come with a huge trail of human misery, that the users never bother to consider.

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Dramaofallama · 26/10/2019 15:16

DaveMyHat
That is the catch unfortunately, knowing who is trafficked and who isn't.
I think the established nail bars that have a steady work force are more than likely legitimate, the ones that pop up or have a high turn over of staff may not be so but then that is not really a guarantee that it is run by traffickers.

DaveMyHat · 26/10/2019 15:17

As for cannabis I've always been against legalising it on a gut level, as my brother has mental health issues related to taking it. I don't know the answer on how to improve the industry, I'm just not sure legalisation is it. But I am very ignorant on the subject. It's not one I have read about deeply.