To not keep poxy child in isolation

[FromCuddleLand]

Hello! We are on half term this week. Every year we take our DC to London for a few days to do the sites. This is the first year that we have planed to take the youngest. He is mega excited. We've booked the hotel (2 rooms, non refundable) and purchased tickets for one of the venues in advance.
Last night I noticed youngest was starting to look a bit spotty. Today he is pretty pickled and it is obvious it is chicken pox. He is ok in himself, cheery and bouncing around. I know that he would not be allowed in school but do I really have to not take him anywhere? (as far as I understand you are contagious before the spots show anyway). I really really don't want to cancel our trip. Am I being an arsehole or is it ok to take him? (most things were going to are outdoors). BTW have NC for this but have been on here since 2011.

You are being hugely unreasonable. Chicken pox can be really serious for imuno surpressed people, or pregnant women. Please don't be selfish!

Shall we start a book as to how many more posts tell her how unreasonable she is?

Well, that depends, @Nanny0gg - are you planning to pay by cheque?

That mupper show..

No great arguement point just wondered re the amount of Flu and Colds floating around relative to the C/Pox..

Intresting bit here via wikipedia;

In the UK as of 2014, the vaccine is only recommended in people who are particularly vulnerable to chickenpox. This is to keep the virus in circulation thereby exposing the population to the virus at an early age, when it is less harmful, and to reduce the occurrence of shingles in those who have already had chickenpox by repeated exposure to the virus later in life.

So seems a rather hit and miss situation in that articale it goes on to say C/Pox parties are held to enable the Pox to spread and thus render those infected to be immunised!

Wonder why they don't just immunise like measles mumps and rubella etc??

Maybe it costs too much?.

I can see OP is getting a really hard time here. Just to point out that though, many people seem to incorrectly think that chickenpox is just a minor ailment (similar to sniffles) and don’t realise the impact on others

It’s rubbish OP but you have to stay in.
If it’s any consolation, with DC1, he developed it 2 days before we were due to fly to Corsica and we had to cancel the first week of our holiday. DC2 then kept failing to catch it. DC3 developed it many years later on the first day of our holiday in Cyprus where it was ridiculously hot. I was then confined to a room with really quite ill DC3 who was really distressed by it whilst DH looked after other two and kept them away from DC3 - except for worrying trips to hospital when pox on underside of his eyelid endangered his eye. We then managed to join in the holiday once he was all scabbed over for the last 4 days of the fortnight. We got home 2 days before MIL’s 70th birthday weekend away and of course the day after we got home DC2 got it and missed that trip. Chicken pox can be unbelievably shit even if you’re not immunocompromised and if I had my time again, I’d vaccinate!!

It would be really irresponsible for you to put others at risk like this. Chicken pox could kill a child fighting cancer for example.
Small babies and elderly people are at risk from complications also.

Some fun ideas OP for the days at home with your child (as I think you've got the message from the rest of them)

•Halloween crafts? Look on Pinterest then you could order things online from amazon to do them with.

•Bake some basic biscuits and decorate them, ditto cupcakes.

•Pumpkin carving?

•Halloween movies/movie days.

I'm sure your child will probably not be up to much anyway a CP can be crap. At least these are low effort ideas?

Good luck! (And thank you for staying home, from an immune compromised person!)

Thanks for listening to the posters, OP, even if so many haven’t bothered their arse listening to you. I hope your week or so goes past quickly.

My Ds was tired and much happier when spots came out.

Lots of craft games and Tv .

As someone who is taking an auto immune cancer victim out. I would be bloody pissed off that you could be selfish enough to risk their life

@FromCuddleLand 5 days will fly. My DS has them in January for 2 whole weeks 😫 plus tonsillitis, pox in his mouth and a woolly tooth. It was NOT fun.
At least it’s pretty miserable weather, so loads of board games and dvds.

*woolly tooth!? 😂😂 should say, wobbly tooth!

My 3 year old caught chicken pox in May. She came out in the spots on a Monday, and we had also booked a London trip that week, Thursday to the following Monday. Had to cancel the trip completely (her last spot took 9 days to scab over).
Some things are more important than a little break away - like not making others ill through irresponsibility.

Entertaining a poxy child is shit.

Our 3 yr old came out with CP 4 days into a two week caravan holiday in Eastbourne (we live in Scotland). It was miserable. Initially he was quite poorly so happy to watch endless films and nap. Towards the end of the holiday when he was starting to scab over we ventured out to a nature reserve for a walk and some fresh air and tried to stay away from others.

The day before his spots came out though we were in the caravan park swimming pool!

Yes, people come into contact with other contagious people all the time. Nothing we can do about that. Once you know though, you have a responsibility to not knowingly pass the illness on.

What an incredibly selfish person you are.

What may be a few spots to your family could mean the death of another persons family member.

You do now know your child is contagious so you are now making a conscious decision to potentially infect other people.

I have a husband who is seriously immunocompromised, so have to avoid dgcs when they catch chickenpox. Unfortunately it’s the time before the spots appear that are the biggest problem as you don’t know they have it, but once the spots appear please keep them at home. There is a likelihood that he will start to feel unwell anyway and it just makes it even more miserable for him if he is stuck in a hotel away from home.

The op is disappointed and was probably hoping for different answers, even though she really knew she would be told no. She has agreed that she won’t take her ds away so no need to kick her when she’s down. Give her a break! Hopefully he will recover soon op.

As an immuno compromised person who will likely be hospitalised by the Pox, yes you would be very unreasonable!
How can you even think of going?

So frustrating when you have to alter plans and give up something you'd looked forward to. It won't be the time that you planned but I'm sure you can have fun at home carving pumpkins, playing games, building dens, movie days, baking or finding bits in the garden (leaves, sticks et c) to make a collage or Halloween bowl "garden"

I knew someone who lost their baby at 26 weeks gestation because a parent failed to inform her that their kids had Chicken Pox when they came over - not worth the risk

This thread is pure gold.

Who are all these people who only read an Op before venting, totally ignoring what anyone else (particularly the OP) says? It's weird.

I imagine that they're the same people that, in real life, interrupt you as soon as you start to speak, tell you what they think you said, don't let you get a word in, and then change the subject so that they can talk about themselves.

Bloody hell! Read op's updates people!

The OP has said she isn’t going and now gone to bed ... and still it carries on!

OP cancel the cheque and avoid Maui.

Things to do at home

You could watch movies and make some snacks and special drinks so it feels like more of a treat.

Arts and Crafts,there's some really good videos doing the rounds at the moment for Halloween arts and crafts.

Do some baking together.

You may find that your LO just wants to sleep most of the week because of the chicken pox,make sure you have calpol/nurofen in the house and something for they're skin before your DH leaves with your other DC so you aren't left with a poorly child and the hassle of trying to get things to help them feel better whilst not being able to leave the home.

I'm really glad your not going to take him,I've just become a Grandmother for the first time and I'm immunosuppressed(thankyou Ulcerative Colitis)and I'll be spending time in London this half term and If I caught Chicken pox from your DC it could kill me and it would leave my 5DC,my DH and my DGrandchild beside themselves

YABVU.

Chicken pox is not just dangerous for pregnant women but for newborn babies and anyone who has a weak immune system, such as people who are having chemotherapy (a treatment for cancer) or taking steroid tablets

www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-and-conditions/infections-and-poisoning/chickenpox#preventing-the-spread-of-chickenpox

Worth thinking about vaccination for chicken pox for other children?

You may even get it on the NHS, or you can pay for it. Obviously not for the OP but for others...

www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/chickenpox-vaccine/

The NHS is so weird about chickenpox. On the one hand it refuses to vaccinate as standard on the grounds that it's better for the virus to circulate (so that kids get it not adults, and so that older people are allegedly less likely to get shingles). On the other hand, it tells people with poxy kids NOT to take them out and to do everything possible to ensure that the disease does not circulate!

Make up your mind, NHS!!

In the meantime, you can get the vaccine at Boots, everyone!