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To think Piers Morgan publicly bullying a woman is not setting a good example to young people?

81 replies

OatyGoaty · 22/10/2019 23:59

Thankfully I don't watch much he's on, but on the occasions I have had the misfortune to, I find him an over-bearing, narcissistic arse.

Why is it OK for him to continually be on our screens bullying an adult female?

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blubelle7 · 23/10/2019 14:24

Mea culpa of course an injunction. I didn't think of that.

Mitzi K is absolutely right about Piers not being able to see anyone else's point of view, as well as defending anyone he likes for mistakes he would heavily criticise anyone else for.

Tvstar · 23/10/2019 14:54

I hate your op 'bullying a woman'. Why does it make a difference she is a woman? You are implying women are somehow weaker??

purplepalace · 23/10/2019 16:03

@Tvstar I think the OP was trying to point out it was an adult being bullied rather than a child (as we usually associate bullying amount children or teens)...that's how I understood it. I also realised exactly who they were referring to without them actually saying MM's name, because she is a woman, and he does bully her.

LochJessMonster · 23/10/2019 16:09

Meh I agree with most of what he says. Just like Katie Hopkins. Sometimes their opinions are out of order, other times, spot on.
Not PC but reflective of what some people think.

Imagine being two staggeringly privileged royal multi-millionaires going to Africa to make a documentary that supposedly 'shines a light' on poverty, violence against women/girls & racial inequality - then in fact making it all about their own terrible struggle. I mean, FFS. Grin Grin

LaurieMarlow · 23/10/2019 16:18

Meh I agree with most of what he says.

Did you see the pic linked up thread with all his headlines about her?

Do you think this is an appropriate and normal level of interrogation?

LochJessMonster · 23/10/2019 16:22

Meh I agree with most of what he says.
Note the word 'MOST'.

Also. He's a journalist. She's hot gossip and controversial. Of course he's going to comment on her.

LaurieMarlow · 23/10/2019 16:26

Of course he's going to comment on her.

But he’s not just ‘commenting’ on her, is he?

It’s sustained and constant criticism.

Has he ever mentioned Andrew I wonder?!?!

GlitteryNow · 23/10/2019 16:32

'it's a tale of an online friendship that didn't survive past the first meet-up. They tweeted each other a lot, developed ideas of who the other was, and then they met up for the first time.'

As they were online 'friends' in the months leading up to her meeting Harry I believe Morgan's issue is when he was seen as useful, ie a well connected UK TV personality she wanted to know him, as soon as she moved up the chain she dropped him. He does need to stop going on about them though, I wouldn't call it bullying but it does seem a bit obsessive.

phoenixrosehere · 23/10/2019 16:37

She's hot gossip and controversial.

Is she though or is that how the media has made her out to be like they seem to do continuously with young female royals. I still find it interesting that the Prince Andrew thing has been swept under the rug so to speak despite him not being an heir to the throne. How does what the duchess wear or dresses her son in more news than his relationship with Epstein?

LaurieMarlow · 23/10/2019 16:41

I believe Morgan's issue is when he was seen as useful, ie a well connected UK TV personality she wanted to know him, as soon as she moved up the chain she dropped him

Or equally, she changed her opinion after she met him in person (which would hardly be surprising). Who the fuck knows, we don’t have her side of the story.

LochJessMonster · 23/10/2019 16:56

Is she though or is that how the media has made her out to be
She's an actress. Shes not some nobody picked off the street and thrust into the limelight just because of who she loves.

They complain about the attention, and then do a documentary that they know will be controversial...

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 23/10/2019 16:58

As they were online 'friends' in the months leading up to her meeting Harry I believe Morgan's issue is when he was seen as useful, ie a well connected UK TV personality she wanted to know him, as soon as she moved up the chain she dropped him. He does need to stop going on about them though, I wouldn't call it bullying but it does seem a bit obsessive.

That is the point of view he has expressed at great length. I feel this chain of events requires Meghan to start off being incredibly wise about people, and possessed of a fine strategic mind. This leads her to strike up a friendship with Morgan. Then for this scenario to work, we must accept she randomly lost all the grasp of social tactics she had, and dropped Piers for no reason. Why do that? Why would you alienate a well-connected UK journalist for no reason? There's nothing to gain, career-wise, from taking such pains to end a friendship with a member of the press.

Simultaneously good at manipulating people for her career and yet really bad at it? Schrödinger's Meghan, clearly!

KeepingUpKartrashians · 23/10/2019 17:03

Princess Diana used to invite Piers Morgan to Kensington Palace and tell him tidbits of highly publishable gossip to see if he would tell on her. He has known the two princes since they were waist height. And he was shrewd enough to see straight through Diana’s game, kept quiet and then she trusted him and he was her mouthpiece - within reason and cynicism. Meghan and Harry would have been better keeping him at friendly arms length like Diana did and making good use of his journalism. If he likes someone, he says so - and he says why. If Prince Harry had a brain he’d have harnessed Piers AND Richard Kay.

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 23/10/2019 17:05

The only way I can make his version of events work is if he's trying to say that Harry put Meghan off him, without actually daring to explicitly say, "She was really into me, and then Harry told her every bad thing I'd ever done as a journalist. She wasn't willing to speak to me after she heard all that, especially the stuff about Milly Dowler's phone".

To be honest, that's quite plausible, and would explain all the vitriol he's sent their way.

OatyGoaty · 23/10/2019 17:33
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GlitteryNow · 23/10/2019 17:45

'She was really into me, and then Harry told her every bad thing I'd ever done as a journalist. She wasn't willing to speak to me after she heard all that, especially the stuff about Milly Dowler's phone'

That was The News Of The World.

itsgettingweird · 23/10/2019 17:51

My issue with Piers is the fact he doesn't value anyone's opinion if it differs from his.

Some of what he says is totally fine and his passion is directed correctly at times (Eg Grenfell)

But other times he just talks over people - asks a question and butts in after the first 2 words of the answer if he decides he doesn't like it - having not even listened to it

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 23/10/2019 17:51

Maybe Harry got it wrong, too. Wink

KeepingUpKartrashians · 23/10/2019 17:51

Ahhhhhh. I have tears pouring down my face at Piers Morgan. Love it. He eats his words at the end.

derxa · 23/10/2019 17:58

His twitter spat with Dan Walker is hilarious. Dan is a star!
I can't stand Dan or his anodyne BBC programme. He landed Naga Munchetty in it with his disingenuous questions. PM is a complete arse but GMB have some good political interviews. They address the trans issue head on.
Anyway PM's obsession with Meghan is pitiful. She saw through him and cut ties.

LavendarGreen · 23/10/2019 17:58

@OatyGoaty

YANBU!

Morgan is fast turning into a bully. He thinks he's so cool and quirky with his 'no nonsense' approach, but he is just turning into a gobby, ranty eejit.

He claims he voted remain in the EU referendum but is a PASSIONATE Leaver now. Nothing wrong with being a Remainer OR a Leaver; each to their own, but I don't know a soul who voted remain and are obsessed with leaving now!

And I have no fucking IDEA how he managed to slither and slide his way out of those phone tapping accusations (at the time the News Of The World shut down.)

He was horrible to Little Mix, and would not leave them alone when they posed near naked for an album cover, and he is relentless in his bashing and bullying Meghan Markle.

As @nestisflown said - he is OK if you're on the right side of him, and he will defend you, but if you don't sing to his tune, and ask 'how high' when he says 'JUMP,' he will make your life hell. And sometimes he CAN be funny and can have a point with his views, but his relentless ranting and bullying of some people is vile.

Cam77 · 23/10/2019 18:12

I think (hope) Piers Morgan puts on his personality or at least ramps it up for viewers. What's more worrying is that this kind of "stupid but proud of it" reactionary populist shit is lapped up by so may these days. "Telling it like it is" is only commendable when you have a certain level of intelligence, can engage in civil discussion, and don't speak out your arse.

Cam77 · 23/10/2019 18:13

Piers Morgan isn't stupid (though nowhere near as bright as he thinks he is) but usually fails on the other two counts.

longwayoff · 23/10/2019 18:27

OLD has a lot to answer for, imagine looking forward to meeting new person and finding its Piers MorganConfused. Bathroom window, without a doubt. Then having him crucify you publicly and regularly for having the temerity to find him as unattractive as he is. Wearing the inside outside, Piers.

phoenixrosehere · 23/10/2019 20:21

She's an actress. Shes not some nobody picked off the street and thrust into the limelight just because of who she loves.

Doesn’t matter that she is an actress and I hate how much that comes up because people say it as if she was leading a Hollywood life. She spent most of her time in Canada filming for Suits. She did side jobs as an actress like most actors do. I bet the same people that use the actress excuse are the same people who said Harry should have married one of his exes ignoring the fact that one of them was an actress and they broke up with Harry so they wouldn’t have to go through the s**t that Meghan endures now.

It’s a wonder if there would have been anyone good enough for Harry that the tabloids wouldn’t have ripped apart. It says more about society that people buy into this and support this crap that the media is able to continue because it sells papers.