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3 miscarriages this year, all ended at 6 weeks

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charlie284 · 22/10/2019 18:34

We have just found out we lost our 3rd baby at 6 weeks. The second was a missed miscarriage so we found out at 11 weeks but the baby didn't survive passed 6 weeks then as well. I was told to take aspirin and cyclogest this time but it didn't change anything.

I feel so down about it because we are seeming to get pregnant every time we try which I am very grateful for, but we can't seem to get much further. We are both 30 and healthy so don't feel like it can be "just bad luck" every time! We have been recommended Dr Shehata to test my natural killer cells amongst other things. I wondered if anyone has had any success with him and what your thoughts were as it is really expensive!

Thank you in advance!

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Kittenbittenmitten · 22/10/2019 18:43

Oh I'm really sorry. I had two mmc before conceiving my current pregnancy, so far so good. I didn't find out either time til nearer the 12 week mark but both had died at 6 weeks. I was surprised as conceiving my first born was uneventful. I was just about to undergo testing when I found out about this pregnancy so the investigations were cancelled.

I hope that it's just bad luck in your case as it seemed to be in my mine and if you do have the investigations that they reveal something that can be fixed. Good luck.

Nat6999 · 22/10/2019 18:54

I lost several pregnancies before 6 weeks, ask your GP for blood tests to check if you have sticky blood as this can be related to recurrent miscarriage, something like a baby aspirin every day may prevent this.

LucyAutumn · 22/10/2019 18:55

No experience of Dr Shehata but just wanted to say how sorry I am to hear about your experiences and I really hope things start to look up for you

Crunchymum · 22/10/2019 19:08

3 miscarriages (also in a year. All between 6-8 weeks) had an automatic referral to the recurrent miscarriage clinic.

Was there any mention of this?

It feels like a lifetime ago as I now have DC but it was a horrible time. Take it easy

WineGummyBear · 22/10/2019 19:20

So sorry this is happening to you.

You are right to crack on with investigations.

I went to the clinic in Coventry (natural killer cells) and took part in the TABLET clinical trial.

One of those two treatments worked for me after 6 losses (all at 6-8 weeks).

Take care
All the best

BuxbyFree · 22/10/2019 19:22

3 miscarriages (also in a year. All between 6-8 weeks) had an automatic referral to the recurrent miscarriage clinic.

Me too, was 2013 & after my 3rd miscarrige i found out i had PCOS

BuxbyFree · 22/10/2019 19:23

Forgot to add on my post, that was all in 2013, in 2015 i had a DD and in 2016 i had a DS both naturally no help needed

Broccolibravado · 22/10/2019 19:30

Hi, I'm so sorry, this is a horrible time you are going through. I had the NK cell test, after five miscarriages. With very simple treatment (a steroid course) I went onto have two successful pregnancies. Please look into it, don't give up hope. Take care of yourself x

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charlie284 · 22/10/2019 21:25

WineGummyBear and BrocolliBravado that’s so great to hear, I think we are going to go ahead and test for the killer cells. I’m so pleased for you that you had success with it. Thank you for sharing xx

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charlie284 · 22/10/2019 21:27

CrunchyMum - yes we did get referred to a miscarriage clinic after the second one actually needed they did a few blood tests and a womb scan and said everything showed up as normal so not too much to go on but good to have them on our side as they monitor us from 6 weeks when we do get pregnant again.

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Andysbestadventure · 22/10/2019 21:30

You might have an overly enthusiastic uterus. Where it allows embryos to implant that normally would be rejected by the body due to genetic problems or poor quality.

Also translocations or whatever theyre called might be something to investigate.

keo8260 · 22/10/2019 22:13

Have you had your thyroid tested? Thyroid stimulating hormone (tsh) needs to be at a minimum of 2 to be able to maintain a pregnancy. You need to see the results for yourself too. I was tested but doctor somehow missed it and the end result for us after the third miscarriage was my husband will now never have children of his own. There are reasons for this I won't go into but had we known there was a thyroid issue it would have been a different story for us.

DorisDances · 22/10/2019 22:18

Hugs for you OP

Robs20 · 22/10/2019 22:21

Could you take progesterone? I know the research on this is mixed but I know of a few people who took it until 12 weeks to help implantation after recurrent miscarriages.

CoffeeorBust · 22/10/2019 22:21

I had 3 last year, all before 6 weeks. The RMC started me on Asprin for the 4th pregnancy and she stuck, and is now 3 month old DD. My bloods confirmed no thrombophillia though, so it's possible I just had shit luck. It is possible to roll 3 x 1s, and statistically someone will.

Robs20 · 22/10/2019 22:22

Sorry ignore my comment, just saw that you took Cyclocest.

Enidcat5 · 22/10/2019 22:28

Hi op, I'm so so sorry to hear what you've been through.

Yes, I had nk cell testing and treatment with his clinic under NHS and I'm sitting here holding my baby DD who is 4.5 months old. I had 5 mcs between my DS and this baby and, like you, babies died around 6 to 7 weeks. I found out about his clinic on mn and was referred from my GP. Tests found that I had very aggressive nk cells. All other tests with gp and local hospital had found nothing wrong so it was such a relief to have a reason why it was happening. Please feel free to pm me if you'd like to chat anything through.

I've met many people who've been through the same and had successful treatment at Coventry or Epsom clinics. There is hope if it is the same issue I had but oh it was soul destroying going through the mcs and my heart goes out to you.

If I can be of any help please do get in touch.

Enidcat5 · 22/10/2019 22:30

I should have said, it was Dr Shehatas clinic I was with.

Jezzballs2000 · 22/10/2019 22:30

I’m so sorry to hear this. I had three in the last year and currently at about 6 weeks pregnant. I was referred to recurrent miscarriage clinic and they pretty much said it was age (I’m 39). I also went privately with Zita West who also look into immune issues (NK cells and other gene mutations). They say I have blood clotting issues and have prescribed a few different things. I’m on cyclogest and aspirin also recommended by NHS plus steroids and Clexane which is an anti coagulant and high dose of methylfolate (natural folic acid). I’m also doing intralipid transfusions and acupuncture. I’m very much in fear of something going wrong and it really could of course, no promises are made. But I like their approach and I think your doctor follows a similar one. The sense of disappointment is so so bitter and miserable and just such a sad slog. There is hope, which must be hard to see right now. I hope you have time and space to grieve. Xxx

HarrietM87 · 22/10/2019 22:36

I was in exactly the same position as you, had treatment privately with shehata and had my son last year.

The previous poster is incorrect about TSH levels. 1.1-2 is recommended but it’s not right that that’s needed to sustain a pregnancy - under 4 is normal so there are many people in the population with no issues who are never tested and have no problems in pregnancy. However, it is worth getting your thyroid checked by your GP because if it is abnormal that can cause problems, and it is also a test that mr shehata will do so you may as well get it done for free! (I have had thyroid issues for 18 years, was diagnosed with NK cells too).

CobaltLoafer · 22/10/2019 22:50

Just to say I could have written your post (had five losses at around six weeks before any investigations) had all the tests, diagnosed with ‘bad luck’. Was despairing. Resigned myself to IVF.

Before we could do it, I got pregnant with my DD naturally, and now have three kids with a small gap (all naturally).

Definitely look into reasons but try not to get too worried

honeylulu · 22/10/2019 22:51

Yes I had multiple miscarriages (one second trimester loss - they got gradually earlier and earlier with longer and longer gaps between pregnancies). All between ages 35-39. I had one older child.

Had lots of tests, nhs and then private, nothing seemed wrong except age (my late loss had a post mortem and there were chromosome problems).

Natural killer cells was the last thing tested. I saw dr. Alison Taylor at the Lister Clinic. Sure enough I had raised NKC. Was going to have IVF coupled with blood plasma transfusions but just before found it I was naturally pregnant. A few days later, blood plasma transfusion. Baby stuck and is now my gorgeous five year old daughter! Born a few days before I was 40.

Good luck OP.

Andsoitisjust99 · 22/10/2019 22:56

I’m so sorry.
Low dose aspirin and progesterone worked for many of us in this scenario but it’s just the easiest, simplest, cheapest “fix”, there are so many ways they can help now beyond this, don’t give up.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 22/10/2019 23:06

I'm so sorry. I had three miscarriages between 5 and 7 weeks pretty much back to back in 2017 (when I was 29). It was horrible and I was absolutely despairing. I had natural killer cell testing, but at Coventry (the research centre run by Dr Quenby) - the results came back as normal (as I did from all the recurrent miscarriage clinic testing) but that might be worth looking at as another option. It's a lot cheaper than Dr Shehata, and I felt more comfortable with a research group than a private doctor. You can self refer and I found them incredibly lovely and helpful, which my local hospital were not.

In the end I conceived two months after seeing the Coventry clinic. It was my first time on aspirin and cyclogest, and I'd also had an endometrial scratch there, but since all my results were normal I'll never know whether any of that made a difference or whether I had just been unlucky and then got lucky.

keo8260 · 23/10/2019 00:11

Sorry but I am not wrong about the tsh. I suggest further reading on the thyroid involvement. I used to be a midwife.

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