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Would we be unreasonable to fix this?

48 replies

SunshineAngel · 17/10/2019 11:42

I don't know if anyone remembers (probably not) but I posted a thread a while back about struggles we've been having with my partner's ex, who is overbearing with my DSS. i.e. making decisions about him, buying him things we've said no to, or have said he should save up for himself, turning up at the house to see him with no notice, taking him out at weekends when it's our contact time and we'd planned things, etc.

The general consensus on here was that I was a jealous stepmum, and that I should let DSS see whoever he wants. I stopped talking about it then because I thought you know what, you're probably right. Even though a part of me really still thought it was just too much.

But.

I had a chat with DSS last night, after the ex turned up at the house at just gone 10.30pm bringing him some sweets that he liked (chocolate orange twirls - there might be a few missing when he gets home from college hahaha). 10.30pm is his bedtime, so he was in bed, as he was knackered so went a bit early last night. It was pitch black, we don't live in the best area, and she didn't say she was coming to drop something off, so tbh I was scared to open the door, so I didn't. I knew if it was anyone important they would phone/text. Anyway, she phoned DSS and he came downstairs and opened the door, and she kept him chatting for ages.

He came in to me after she had gone and said "When is this going to stop?" I asked what he meant, and he said that since her and his dad split, he has only been going along with things and going out with her because she's been telling him how sad and lonely she feels, and how she feels like she is missing out because we're all here being a happy family (we're not - we're all incredibly busy, so any family time is rare and precious) and she's not. I believe he only said this to me as he was grumpy as hell at having been dragged out of bed, when there's no reason she couldn't have come earlier, or today instead, or even just posted them through the door!

He says it annoys him when she comes to pick him up at weekends, as he doesn't get chance to go out with us, or to see his grandparents, or to go out with his friends, but he doesn't know how to ask her to stop.

I said it's important for him to still see her, if he was okay with that, as she was living with him for 8 years and helped a lot bringing him up. I suggested perhaps a day out each month or something similar (she sees him at least 4 days a week atm for one reason or another, most of which are unplanned. She also picks him up from college regularly despite not having been asked, and us paying a lot of money for a bus pass for him this year) and he just sighed and said that sounds okay, but he bets she would still always be calling and texting.

I will admit that it came as a shock to me to hear this. The main reason we have been putting up with her behaviour is because we thought he was happy going out with her and seeing her, but he's now saying it's stopping him doing things, and they don't have much fun anyway, and he only does it because she guilt trips him and he feels sorry for her because she had to go back and live with her dad at the age of 45 and has been there ever since.

My partner was all for calling her there and then to say stop it, let HIM make contact as and when he wants from now on. She has been a pain for the whole two years we've been together. I would never stop her seeing him, contrary to what I was accused of on the last thread I posted, but I did feel it was inappropriate with the level of contact she was trying to maintain.

Is there any way to delicately solve this so that everyone is happy? The last thing we need right now is drama! DSS is loving life since he started college, and think it has just become more of an issue now as he wants to be more independent - so whereas it sort of suited him to go along with her when he was at school, it really doesn't now.

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WaningGibbous · 17/10/2019 11:53

How old is he? Over 16? Old enough to manage his own relationship I would have thought.

Kelsoooo · 17/10/2019 12:08

Is this your DSS mom or previous step mom?

Howyiz · 17/10/2019 12:17

Change his number so that her contact has to come through you.

lyralalala · 17/10/2019 12:21

How old is your DSS?

Vilanelle · 17/10/2019 12:50

Why are you discouraging him from seeing his mum? Does she have alcohol/drug issues?

Most Mothers would be desperate to see their children, yes.

Jollitwiglet · 17/10/2019 12:53

Is she not his mother? If not I would absolutely follow your step sons lead and allow him to decide if he still wishes to see her

WhenISnappedAndFarted · 17/10/2019 12:56

My parents split up when I was (I assume) around your DDS's age as I had also just started college. He's old enough to decide what he wants to do so if he wants to step back a bit and do other things then he's going to have to tell her that.

messolini9 · 17/10/2019 12:58

Why are you discouraging him from seeing his mum?

Er ... she isn't. DSS is feeling the discouragement all on his own:
He came in to me after she had gone and said "When is this going to stop?" I asked what he meant, and he said that since her and his dad split, he has only been going along with things and going out with her because she's been telling him how sad and lonely she feels

It's right there in the first post, @Vilanelle. HTH

Strangerthingshere · 17/10/2019 12:59

If I remember right from previous post she is not his mother but was heavily involved in his early years as had a long term relationship with his father?

In my opinion you just need to invite her over and have an open conversation with the 4 of you. Absolutely continue the relationship as too many adults become step parents and then walk away when a relationship breaks down, it is nice to still have a relationship when she was a large part of his life. But you all need to discuss some boundaries, nobody would be welcome to chap my door at 10.30pm. She isn't going to take any hints, the 3 of you need to be firm and honest about expectations

BarbedBloom · 17/10/2019 12:59

I think with the best will in the world, this has to come from him. You and your H or just your H can sit down with him and help him frame what he wants to say in a kind way, but he has to be the one to put the boundaries in place.

I wouldn't be happy with someone coming round at 10.30pm. His mum has to realise, same as all parents do, that kids get older and become independent. They still need their parents, but not in the same way as before. It is hard, but you have to let them go and make their own life. I have a lot of sympathy for her, but if it is making her son unhappy, she has to listen to him.

BarbedBloom · 17/10/2019 13:01

Hang on, have just reread and realised she may not be his mum, just your partner's ex. In which case the message is the same, but your partner can also put boundaries in place about her just randomly appearing at the house.

TeenPlusTwenties · 17/10/2019 13:03

as she was living with him for 8 years and helped a lot bringing him up

I read this as the ex is a previous step mum, not the mum Mum.

Can you help him formulate a letter / email to her?

Vilanelle · 17/10/2019 13:09

@messolini9 See, I still didn't take that as her being a previous step mum. May just be that he wasn't "a fan" of his mother and had chose to live with his dad.

Well if she isn't his Mum I would tell her to stop calling, 100%

ittooshallpass · 17/10/2019 13:23

This is a tough one, but if your DSS is feeling the way he is and needs help to reduce the amount of contact, his Dad needs to step in.

You must have a great relationship with your DSS if he is able to talk to you the way he does. It isn’t right for DSS’s mum to turn up at 10.30pm. She needs to understand that she is pushing her DS away with this type of behaviour. Very sad, but better for your DP to sort this out now before DSS wants nothing to do with her.

Batcrazy101 · 17/10/2019 13:24

is his actual mum involved? does she behave like this when DSS is with her as well?

I need more clarification on this "relationship" because my first instinct is that its very unfair on DSS to try and maintain all these parental relationships!

Lllot5 · 17/10/2019 13:28

How old is he? This is a step mother from husband’s previous relationship?
Just tell her not to come round to your house at stupid o clock with sweeties?
Get your DH involved in this too.

Bouffalant · 17/10/2019 13:36

It's not his actual Mum @Vilanelle.

It's his Dad's ex live in partner.

Bouffalant · 17/10/2019 13:38

I agree with PP that it needs to come from DS. If she contacts him he needs to straight up tell her he is busy and wants to see other people too, and cannot see everyone he wants to if he's with her 4 times a week.

Suggest they plan something once a month and take it from there.

Motoko · 17/10/2019 13:43

How old is he?

As OP said he's just started college, he's probably 16.

OP, you're going to need to clarify whether this woman is his mum, or previous step mum. Also, where is his mum, if this one is SM?

He's told you she guilt trips him into going with her, so your partner needs to put some boundaries in place. No random visits, perhaps set up a regular day when she can see him, if DSS is willing to do that, once or twice a month or something. DSS also needs to be taught how to handle people who use emotional blackmail, and he needs to know that he can say no to her.

Does she have an alcohol problem? It seems odd to be turning up at 10.30pm, makes me wonder if she'd been drinking, was missing him, and thought it would be a great idea to pop round there and then.

AryaStarkWolf · 17/10/2019 13:43

Yeah OP you need to clarify if she's his mom or his ex step mom?

SunshineAngel · 17/10/2019 13:55

Sorry everyone -

To clarify.

DSS is 16 and has just started sixth form college.

This lady is NOT his mother. His mum left when he was a baby, leaving is dad to bring him up, and only came back into his life when he was 6. She does see him on a relatively regular basis, and in answer to another question, my partner's ex does still phone and text while he's at his mum's, but doesn't go round, as she lives over an hour's drive from us (so more from partner's ex).

I know what you're all saying about how it should come from him, but I think he's scared of upsetting people, so I think he's just going to carry on going along with it.

To those who have said we should invite her round for a chat.. do you think I should be there, or just leave it to my partner and DSS? I just don't know whether it'd be intrusive for me to be there, or whether I should be because it's me he spoke to about it.

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SunshineAngel · 17/10/2019 13:56

Also, as far as I'm aware she doesn't have an alcohol problem. I can't say this for sure, but I do know that she drove round last night, so I do hope she hadn't been drinking.

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SunshineAngel · 17/10/2019 13:57

Part of the problem is that we bump into her quite a lot, and I do actually get on with her (though she's not someone I would socialise with on purpose - if that makes sense). So I'm just as bad about not wanting to upset her as DSS and partner are!

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AryaStarkWolf · 17/10/2019 13:59

Oh then that's just a bit weird. If he's saying he doesn't want contact with her listen to him, she sounds stalky for someone who isn't actually his mother

ImNotYourGranny · 17/10/2019 14:05

Your partner needs to step in and tell this woman to back off.