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To feel really sorry for Prince Harry breaking down

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AviationLifystyle · 16/10/2019 09:56

At the awards show. I have been a little skeptical about him recently but my heart really went out to him when I saw the footage.

I have a feeling that having a child has triggered a huge amount of unresolved grief and anxiety. Now he has this dear little boy who is at the mercy of the tabloid press, as is his wife and there is little he can do to protect him.

It's time the press laid off. This is a human being breaking in front of us.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-harry-wellchild-awards-speech-emotional-meghan-pregnant-tears-a9157751.html

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Cerseirys · 21/10/2019 09:45

Harry and William got through their mothers death without drink, drugs or other self destructive behaviour

That we know of. I suspect they were both far more affected by her death than was let on.

Leflic · 21/10/2019 09:47

Accept got the fact that he clearly did cope. What do you think coping looks like if not.
Of course he’ll be messed up - he’s not a sociopath. But he’s had good relationships with women, worked at things he’s enjoyed and not killed himself. Isn’t that enough to say he’s coping?

Leflic · 21/10/2019 09:47

Except

Moomin8 · 21/10/2019 09:48

Boo-hoo. Won't someone think of the privileged?
Hmm

There are plenty of people I feel sorry for. Prince Harry is not one of them.

CallmeAngelina · 21/10/2019 09:52

@BertrandRussell But if you were being interviewed and the interviewer asked you how his death had impacted on your professional life, surely you’d say? Particularly if you knew that everybody watching knew about it and knew that it had been a particularly difficult time for you?

Not really, no. Anyone with an ounce of empathy would know it's a difficult time. That shouldn't need to be spelt out. So I expect I would say something like, "well, as you can imagine, it's a challenging time for anyone, but I have worked hard to ensure that it hasn't impacted my professional performance, because... blah-di-blah and shift the conversation back towards safer ground, and successes achieved and the way forward for the job. Absolutely no need to (in Meghan's own words in that old clip from a few years ago) "squeeze a tear out from the left eye. Give me 3 minutes."

LaurieMarlow · 21/10/2019 10:03

Accept got the fact that he clearly did cope.

I would not say this was an example of great coping, referencing as it does 'being on the verge of punching someone' and 'very close to a complete breakdown on numerous occasions'. He still describes her death as a would that 'festers.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/16/prince-harry-sought-counselling-death-mother-led-two-years-total/

LakieLady · 21/10/2019 10:03

But Beer that isn’t necessarily healthy.In Meghan’s case the more she tolerates the worse it will get. There are also huge benefits in her opening up, there are none in hiding it.

I disagree, @J1ckback. If the pair of them stfu, the press would eventually tire of poking them with sticks and move on to someone else in the RF, until the vultures were eventually reduced to some royal so minor that the press would have to doorstep them outside Lidl.

The first "royal" to engage with the press in this way was Diana. Imo the rot set in with her. None of the older generation has gone public crying "woe is me" about the press, even though Margaret (for example) was subjected to some hideous stuff, especially during the Roddy Llewellyn years. (Prince Charles has, I believe, had a bit of a whinge on occasion, but not so publicly, and imo it's his own fault for wanting to be a tampon).

Princess Anne had some dreadful things said about her when she was younger, but just carried on regardless and now is one of the few among the RF for whom I have any time (works hard, doesn't make a song and dance about it and doesn't appear to participate in conspicuous consumption). She is now so respected that she even managed to divorce and remarry without there being a huge hoo-ha. Edward was the subject of loads of shite from the press at one time, but he didn't find it necessary to bleat on about it.

The Sussexes can over share as much as they like in private, among their friends, with the therapists, counsellors etc that they can hire. They have far more chance of being unscathed by press treatment than someone on benefits that the vile tabloids decide to turn on.

TL:DR - you chose this, suck it up.

LakieLady · 21/10/2019 10:13

I think what seems to be coming across is the that Harry and Meghan are considering leaving Britain. Maybe not for Africa, probably somewhere else in the Commonwealth.

Yes, they'd surely want to live somewhere with decent plumbing and nice shops, wouldn't they? Would Canada be warm enough for them, do you think, or would it have to be somewhere in the Carribean?

I could see them rubbing shoulders with Richard Branson and a Rolling Stone or two...

CallmeAngelina · 21/10/2019 10:15

The Queen must be sitting with her head in her hands this morning.

Nanalisa60 · 21/10/2019 10:17

I Think the both of them should take a leaf out of the Queen mothers book

NEVER EXPLAIN NEVER COMPLAIN!!

BeerandBiscuits · 21/10/2019 10:20

She's probably busy hiding all the newspapers from the Duke.

cakeisalwaystheanswer · 21/10/2019 10:20

They're opening up in a TV intervew because they have no-one else, they seem to have alienated themselves from both families.

The only family member M is in contact with is her mother, having been dropped by M eventually Dorias family, as well as the Markles, have sold photos and stories to the media. Diana is gone and daddy has remarried a woman with her own children and grandchildren who rightly wants to spend her time with them. And they now admit that there is a split with W&K who's lifestyle of being married and having a family actually looks pretty similar to H&M. So much for H providing the family that M never had/or had and dropped. Yes it's lonely having a baby when you are estranged from your families, maybe work on those relationships and then you may find that you "thrive".

Leflic · 21/10/2019 10:22

I would not say this was an example of great coping, referencing as it does 'being on the verge of punching someone' and 'very close to a complete breakdown on numerous occasions'. He still describes her death as a would that 'festers.

“On the verge of “ and “close to” being the key words here. Cruically hr did neither. That to my mind is coping.

MauritiusNext · 21/10/2019 10:22

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LaurieMarlow · 21/10/2019 10:25

That to my mind is coping.

My god, we’re clearly in totally different universes here.

I can hardly believe you think being on the verge of a nervous breakdown on numerous occasions is regular coping, but well, people are strange. 🤷‍♀️

BertrandRussell · 21/10/2019 10:28

It’s obvious that the message about mental health hasn’t worked if rhe “coping” and “existing is fine” posters are to be believed? Me? I’m with Meghan on this- people should be “thriving” not existing.

derxa · 21/10/2019 10:30

They're opening up in a TV intervew because they have no-one else, they seem to have alienated themselves from both families.
I think this is the key issue here. William had the Middletons.

Nanalisa60 · 21/10/2019 10:38

BeerandBisucits

I’m with you the Duck of Edinburgh is probably saying I told you this would happen if he marries a Hollywood Actress

We are being turned into a bloody soap opera

Washing our dirty underwear in public!!

derxa · 21/10/2019 10:39

It’s obvious that the message about mental health hasn’t worked if rhe “coping” and “existing is fine” posters are to be believed?
When you have had a traumatic bereavement, coping and existing is often the only choice. I had every form of counselling imaginable but that doesn't take the daily pain away. Opening up about your pain is fine but eventually it bores other people stiff. I know that from personal experience.

formerbabe · 21/10/2019 10:42

I watched the documentary last night....fuck me, they moaned a lot. Very tiresome

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Myimaginarycathasfleas · 21/10/2019 10:56

They're opening up in a TV intervew because they have no-one else, they seem to have alienated themselves from both families.

Is that the case? What about Doria? Or Charles and Camilla? Plus they have access to the best therapy money can buy, and all the time in the world to take it.

NightLion · 21/10/2019 11:14

Call me a cynic, but I see this as just another PR stunt to garner sympathy. It worked for Diana (Bashir interview).

Mummy195 · 21/10/2019 11:23

They were asked direct questions and they answered directly. About 40 minutes of the documentary was about the charities and the trip. It would have been a bit weird not to ask them those questions though.

BertrandRussell · 21/10/2019 11:25

“My family have planted a lot of trees” made me smile.