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AIBU to stop talking to my mum over funeral?

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MrsButterBosom · 10/10/2019 15:43

Ok this will be a long post with background to avoid drip feeding and because this is a genuine question and I need informed opinions!

I’m 34 with 2 DS, DS1 is 13 DS2 is 5, married and have been with DH for 18years so his family is my family and visa versa.

DH’s Dad passed away after an horrific illness 3 yrs ago, he lived a 4hr drive from us & we got a last min call to get up to see him before he passed. Asked mum to have the DGC so we could dash up. Mum refuses as she had her husbands nieces birthday party to go to (her DH never really saw his family, is a loner and had no real relationship with his DN - admitted he was mainly going for the drink and party food!). Luckily my best friend stepped in, despite being a teacher and having her own DC and hectic dogs and had them over night and all the next day.

FiL passes away, again everything is a 4hr drive from us and I ask Mum if she will have the DC so we can attend the funeral. Again she decided it was too much work (she was only 57 at the time and perfectly fit and well) so my little sis stayed at our so we could go. Again it was a massive rush and we had to go up late the night before and then drive home the afternoon after the funeral. Sis left my house in a state, smoked in all the rooms even my own bed knowing I’m a non smoker and stole some small petty items. DH decides she’s never staying in our house again. (Long history of her being a piss take and a theif).

Roll on to now. DH Nan is dying, get a call to drive the 4hrs to say our goodbyes - mum refuses to have the DGC even though it’s a weekend and she’ll be in the whole time, because her friend is coming over. Her friend who lives nearby and could have come the next night because neither of them work. Take the DC with us, get to Farawayshire at 11pm, dash into the hospital with the kids in tow and say our goodbyes. Nan makes it through and is discharged to nursing home for palliative care. Mum goes on holiday for a week and got back 2 days ago. In the meantime Nan has passed and the we get the date for the funeral - next Thursday.

Speak to my Aunty as she also no longer works, has a car and is very active and loves having my boys. She agrees to pick up DC from school the Weds, drop them at Mums and pick them up on the Thurs after school, feed them and put them to bed. We just need Mum to agree to feed them Weds night, put them to bed (she has numbers bought, allegedly for the DGC) and take DS2 to school in the morning on thurs. Mum is known for being lazy so we say we will pay for her to get a cab there and back (the school is a 15 min walk from her house, poss 20 with DS2 little legs). Aunty tells me to let her ask Mum as she is more likely to agree if Aunty asks for her help.

Invited to Mums this afternoon. “Aunty has told me about your plan for the boys and that you would like me to have them Weds night. I’m sorry but I can’t.” Mum then walks away and offers no explanation. I sit at her table and try not to cry. Can’t hold it in so decide to leave and do so nicely. “Sorry Mum, I’m really upset and I don’t want to be here, I’m going home.”

Heard nothing from her since, had a shitty sanctimonious call from Aunty telling me the kids are my responsibility and that Mum doesn’t need to justify herself to me - I didn’t even ASK her to do any such thing. Didn’t even ask what her reason was! Trying to make me feel bad for leaving and that I had no right to be upset. I am very upset. I can’t help it. I only ever ask my mum to help when I’m desperate and she never does. She helps my sister with her kids, especially DN who is clearly her favourite (which I don’t mind at all, DN has a tough home life and horrible dad and deserves all the love and attention she can get) and I feel like it doesn’t matter what goes wrong or how bad it is I can’t rely on my own mum to be there for me.

To falstall the kindly meant advice - we can’t take them with us. DS13 is autistic and won’t go near a cemetery let alone a funeral, there’s no room at the house we’re staying at the night before for them, DS5 is very sensitive and seeing his family crying will really distress him - he’s not of an age yet where I feel comfortable with him being at a funeral - I will be ok with it when he’s older and less anxious. Also we can’t afford a hotel or bnb, the petrol cost alone is going to fuck us over for the whole month. Plus Farawayshire, the part where DH’a family live is tucked away and hotels are almost non existent, let alone bnbs.

So in conclusion - am I allowed to go low to no contact with mum?

OP posts:
7salmonswimming · 10/10/2019 18:28

You're emotionally low, and you've had yet another kick in the teeth (as you perceive it) from your mum. If you want to go low contact with her, do it. Why do you need permission?

From your mum's perspective, she's not obliged to offer childcare, ever. But she too will need to bear the consequences of that. Maybe she'll be totally fine with that.

Perhaps what you're really grappling with is being closer to you family-in-law who live so far away, than your own mother and sister who aren't as good to you but live nearby. That's a tough pill to swallow, but that's life for some people. You're not the only woman to have these sorts of relationships or to feel this way.

Never expect anything from anyone - parent, spouse, children. You've no right. It's good to give, but you can't do so on the expectation of receiving. That's not really giving. That's transacting. Decent people do tend to give back, and most people in the world are decent. But not all.

fishonabicycle · 10/10/2019 18:31

Let your husband go alone. Just explain you don't have childcare.

FizzyIce · 10/10/2019 18:33

While your mum is a little out of order I wouldn’t have got in contact after you left either , saying “I don’t want to be here” is not “leaving nicely” as you put it , that was rude .
In your situation ,yes I’d go low contact if she doesn’t want to help but I’d also tell your dh to go alone , it’s not that out of the ordinary

TellySavalashairbrush · 10/10/2019 18:36

Sorry, but it really is your mum’s decision whether she wants to help out with your kids or not. Being a grandparent does not mean guaranteed childminding at any time. Personally I’d have sent dh off on his own on both occasions.

Wonkydonkey44 · 10/10/2019 18:41

Take the kids with you , and stop asking your mum for anything . She’s not interested in your kids or helping you . Block her , move on with your life Flowers

Leaannb · 10/10/2019 18:47

Op you did make plans for her without asking her first. You made arrangements with your Aunt to drop off the kids to your mom before asking your mom.....

ohfourfoxache · 10/10/2019 18:53

Can you move to Farawayshire? I know that’s no help in the short term, but wouldn’t it be wonderful to be closer to your ILs?

saoirse31 · 10/10/2019 18:59

Can u not bring kids, blow up beds and all go... and then if u dont want DC to attend funeral you stay with them, but at least you're all there

madcatladyforever · 10/10/2019 19:05

Quite honestly I cannot imagine ever treating my son and DiL like this. I'd do anything for him. Look after his kids and cats.
I'm not sure I could cope with someone that mean and selfish.

Ocado100 · 10/10/2019 19:05

Mum, sisters, auntys
So much family!

Now imagine those, such as myself, without any of these. And not even a DH.

Ask. If they can, great. If they can’t, then you do what do many of us have to do.... pay for childcare or miss out

Frankley · 10/10/2019 19:07

YANBU. Your mother can see how much it means to you to be there, but she can't put herself out a little bit to help you. I had to take a young child to a funeral, l waited with him on the railway station while my husband went to the funeral and then met up with the family afterwards. Don't put yourself out at all for your mother ever.

Dawninglory · 10/10/2019 19:09

Agree with ohfourfoxache, move to where your DH family are or nearer, go no/ low contact with yours as they are not very helpful/loving when you really need help. Personally I would think fu#k them , if that were my mother/ sister.

similarminimer · 10/10/2019 19:09

I'm so sorry that your mum does not want to put herself out for you at all. I agree with the previous helpful posters - that is a big deal, is not going to change by the sounds of things and is something you would benefit from working through so you can accept that she is a massive let-down. I am perplexed by the number of posters so ready to leap in with criticism or genius suggestion that they couldn't get to the 2nd paragraph.

You are entitled to feel and therefore be more distant from her. It sounds like she enjoys some self-righteous dramatics so perhaps better not to tell her you are distancing yourself, but just be more distant. You can refer yourself to IAPT - community psychology services, free, open access (other than waiting lists!) - google IAPT and your local borough.

You may have to be supportive of your in-laws without being there. But that would not be you letting them down.

Bargebill19 · 10/10/2019 19:15

Personally I would have gone low/zero contact along time ago. Clearly you are an optimist!
You’ve no option but to stay home whilst DH goes to the funeral.
I don’t think your mum will even notice you’ve dropped contact.
Good luck.

SmellMySmellbow · 10/10/2019 19:16

Can you all go and just your DH go to the funeral/burial and you and the kids join him for the wake? Better than sending DH alone and wakes tend to be less emotional (and often quite uplifting, in my experience).

yellowallpaper · 10/10/2019 19:16

Your mum is awful for not helping at such a time. If you can't find childcare just let DH go and write to his family explaining why you can't attend but you are thinking of them. Nice card, flowers etc. If possible maybe the boys can go with you to the wake as they are not usually sad tearful affairs, if you can find somewhere to stay.

ineedaholidaynow · 10/10/2019 19:16

Did I miss the bit why your aunt can’t have them, as she loves having your DC?

happytoday73 · 10/10/2019 19:17

Im really sorry. Your mum won't help you in an emergency. Very poor form especially when FIL dying. You need to accept that she won't change & need to decide if you will help her in an emergency... Personally I'd be inclined not too & make it clear next time you speak.

I also agree you would be better living near DH family. You are family.. Family should help each other in bad times... Move close to those that will

Josette77 · 10/10/2019 19:19

Why can't your aunt take them? Does your mum struggle due to their special needs? Our family has never babysat due to dc's special needs, which in our case I understand. Is she nervous about that?

ChicCroissant · 10/10/2019 19:23

My DH and I haven't attended a funeral together for years because of childcare issues - just one of us goes. It will have to be the same for you OP, unfortunately. Anything like weddings or funerals that the rest of your potential childcare are attending are always difficult Flowers

How much contact do you normally have with your mum, OP?

Mrsjayy · 10/10/2019 19:25

Ah that's shit my mum asked me how long I was planning to be at the hospital visiting my dying Mil so I get it. Take the children with you so your DH can see his Gran and mentally tell your mum to stick it up her arse!

Whatevskev · 10/10/2019 19:28

All these people saying well it’s totally up to your mum if she helps or not and you were rude to ask- WTAF?!

OP is hardly asking her mum to babysit so she can swan about one the lash.
She is asking in desperation during crisis times when she would like to support and be with her much loved in laws and husband.

Is it really such a MN sin to even ask a grandparent to do the bare minimum childcare on such circumstance? It’s mad on here sometimes

OP you showed the absolute self restraint in quietly leaving you mums- she sounds selfish and totally uninterested in any of you.

I’d no completely low / no contact
Wait until she needs you I bet she can’t call you quick enough

Can’t you move to Farawayshire and be by your lovely MIL?

MrsBobDylan · 10/10/2019 19:35

Your Mum is a selfish twonk. I wouldn't bother with her and remember that you will be far too busy to help when she needs it.

I would give Aunty a swerve too.

babyrefusesfood · 10/10/2019 19:53

I wouldn’t be having anything to do with her. How awful of her. So sorry for all your losses.

Sure her tune will change when she’s older and wants help Hmm

verytiredandstressed · 10/10/2019 19:54

It's a shame that families can't help out especially at a family emergency.
I get that you've only asked because it's a emergency not because you fancy a night in the pub .
You must understand she will not help you out not ever , she may have her reasons or maybe she's just doesn't want to . It's not nice it's a favour like you'd do a favour for her but she's not willing so you need to not ask again , I'm sure the dc wouldn't want to go their anyway .
I know you want to be there for your dh and family but you can't .
Remember this when your mum wants you to do something for her .
Also someone else mentioned it why did your auntie turn funny with you even though she loves having the dc and helped you with planning it ?