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AIBU to ask anyone considering buying a designer cross-breed puppy to follow this animal shelter for a few weeks before going ahead?

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99RedBalloonsFloating · 08/10/2019 17:03

I have had a couple of poodle crosses and am fully aware of how delightful they are. I am not anti any kind of dog for "purist" or any other reason.

We are considering getting a new dog sometime in the next few years and I've been all over the internet looking at people selling cavapoos, poochons, and various forms of doodle puppies.

I found the website of an incredible looking rehoming charity called Many Tears and have been following them for about a month. Looking at all their dogs and checking every day for new and updated dogs.

www.manytearsrescue.org/

AIBU unreasonable to challenge, in fact, implore, anyone who like me has been looking at getting a designer puppy to do the same.

www.manytearsrescue.org/

This charity mainly rehomes dogs discarded from the puppy industry. That is, puppies that don't make the cut of being able to be sold for hundreds of pounds because of a health problem. Breeding females who have had too many litters to be of any further use and are petrified of people. Dogs that have clearly been returned to breeders for whatever reason, or for some reason are unsold.

Really looking into the profiles of these little dogs just reveals how incredibly heartless this industry is, and how many people must be being taken for a ride every day by heartless breeders. I thought I was pretty savvy but have realised through studying the dogs on this website, that I wasn't.

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picklemepopcorn · 08/10/2019 17:14

Totally unreasonable. I've just spent ten minutes looking at dogs I can't have.

To be fair, that's my fault, not yours. I'd always adopt, and am so sad that dogs are bred irresponsibly.

Popuppippa · 08/10/2019 17:19

Thanks for posting this.

We've been looking at fostering a dog but are finding it difficult to give a dog a home. Signed up for Battersea and didn't even get a response despite grown-up rather than small children, always someone at home etc. I think I'll try more local places that are more responsive.

I'm going to contact them.

99RedBalloonsFloating · 08/10/2019 17:25

@picklemepopcorn we have the same hobby, haha!

@Popuppippa good luck!

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mbosnz · 08/10/2019 17:31

Thanks for that. I shall very carefully not let my daughter see my on that site, or I'll never know a moment's peace. . . might be contacting the landlord to see if I can stretch one cat to one cat and a dog, lol.

DartmoorDoughnut · 08/10/2019 17:33

Many Tears is a fabulous rescue, had a foster dog for them many moons ago.

Also recommend Wiccaweys for the collie lovers! www.wiccaweys.co.uk/

99RedBalloonsFloating · 08/10/2019 17:48

@DartmoorDoughnut that is good to know! I definitely have them down for the future.

@mbosnz so many irresistible little creatures :)

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Evenstar · 08/10/2019 17:57

I adopted my girl from Many Tears last September, if you want to give her a designer name she is a Cavapoochon and would have had a price tag exceeding £1,000 in many areas of the country. She was handed in by a “breeder” as an unsold puppy at five months of age, unsocialised and not having had any vaccinations. Many Tears are amazing, please adopt don’t shop

AIBU to ask anyone considering buying a designer cross-breed puppy to follow this animal shelter for a few weeks before going ahead?
tadpole39 · 08/10/2019 18:11

I foster for many tears and currently have a six year old ex breeding bichon in foster. She is completely adorable despite never having lived in a house and all aspects of normal doggy life being alien to her. She is so brave and throwing herself into all these new experiences but sometimes feeling sad and needing space. She is so worthwhile and seeing her joy at simple things is lovely. Curse those shits who kept her locked up for six years. Many tears perform miracles.

Elieza · 08/10/2019 18:32

Great post. Hope it helps people find a furry friend who deserves a chance.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 08/10/2019 18:40

They are all so gorgeous! If only I didn't work full time.

99RedBalloonsFloating · 08/10/2019 18:40

@Evenstar she is so lovely!!!

@tadpole39 good on you! I hope we can visit the centre sometime soon. We are not in a position to adopt yet as we have a toddler who is still learning to be gentle with our existing dog but I'm thinking in possibly a year or eighteen months we can start thinking about it.

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tequilasunrises · 08/10/2019 18:43

Great post OP. There are so many dogs who need homes - I definitely think there should be more legislation around breeding them.

We are hoping to move house to somewhere bigger in a couple of years and getting a dog then (somewhere closer to work for lunch hour cuddles and walks) and we will definitely be looking to adopt.

misscockerspaniel · 08/10/2019 20:23

YANBU.

I have had three beautiful cocker spaniels from Many Tears, they are a wonderful rescue centre. People thinking of buying a cockerpoo puppy, for example, need to look at the cockers and poodles that Many Tears rescue and then think twice about buying a so-called designed pup.

WithTwoGiantBoys · 08/10/2019 20:30

We tried for ages to find a rescue dog but were turned down by all of them because they said our kids were too young to have a puppy at 8 and 6. In the end we bought one from a home breeder (not a puppy farm) and four years on she's the best dog ever and my boys have enjoyed every second of growing up with her. Rescues do themselves no favours with this approach.

I do worry that many tears and rescues like it facilitate the puppy farming industry by taking the inconvenient and non-profitable dogs off their hands.

misscockerspaniel · 08/10/2019 20:43

What do you think happens to the poor animals that Many Tears aren't able to rescue? Just think about it.

Do you actually think that puppy farmers will stop using dogs and bitches if no one takes them on when they are discarded? Rescues don't facilitate puppy farms, for God sake. Do you really think that puppy farms would cease to exist? Words fail me.

MustardScreams · 08/10/2019 20:49

Err puppy farmers brutally kill puppies and bitches/dogs and bury them if they can’t sell them or breed from them anymore.

If you think rescues are part of the problem here then you need to give your head a wobble.

WithTwoGiantBoys · 08/10/2019 20:54

No, I just did quite a lot of reading around the subject when I was researching finding a puppy and this came up as a theme.

picklemepopcorn · 08/10/2019 20:55

I think they buy some of the dogs they acquire. It is a bit grey. My last dog came from a rescue, and afterwards I regretted that particular rescue. They turned their dogs around very fast, and had a lot of puppies unwanted by breeders, shipped in from Ireland for example. I'm just not sure.

misscockerspaniel · 08/10/2019 20:57

They don't just bury them, they have also been known to feed the killed dogs (shot, hit over the head with a spade, drowned etc) to their remaining stock of dogs. Others are abandoned in the mountains and left to fend for themselves (ie die). Only the very lucky ones get taken in by a rescue.

Abraid2 · 08/10/2019 21:00

Do all the MTs dogs need to have another resident dog in the house?

Cherrysoup · 08/10/2019 21:00

They’re not a registered charity, are they? I find the whole rescuing discarded puppy farm dogs a bit of a dilemma. I imagine they’d meet a horrible end were it not for Many Tears, but i wonder if Many Tears being available means the puppy farmers just palm off the dogs to them?

I find it horrific and disgusting that the Welsh government allows this horrendous practice. The amount of puppy farms in Wales is appalling.

CatsOnCatnip · 08/10/2019 21:07

*family not fancy! Good god 😂

misscockerspaniel · 08/10/2019 21:11

Abraid2 No, the website will say whether or not there needs to be a resident dog in situ. Most do but there is a button for "only dogs".

Cherrysoup MTAR is a not-for -profit company (the website gives the info why). Are the poor animals who are used and abused by puppy farmers not worthy of being rescued? Should we just ignore them and their plight? Hopefully, Lucy's Law will have an impact - Lucy came from MTAR.

If anyone really believes that rescues facilitate puppy farmers, go to MTAR and speak to the staff, see the dogs in the flesh.

Dongdingdong · 08/10/2019 21:11

This is the reality of buying from puppy farms - it’s horrendous:

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7546893/Horrifying-footage-puppy-farms-shows-dogs-languishing-faeces-covered-cages-no-food.html

Why oh why do people do it and keep perpetuating this unbearably cruel industry? I despair.

CatsOnCatnip · 08/10/2019 21:14

Sorry! That I posted and it disappeared and I now look insane.

Lovely post, OP. Can’t wait to rescue again, ASAP.

What did we ever do to deserve dogs!? At this point in my life I’ve known so many breeds I wouldn’t hesitate to just go and take a punt at seeing who they thought would fit my family. I’m almost certain I’d fall in love with any dog.