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AIBU to be pissed off that the Joker movie will be lining the pockets of convicted paedophile Gary Glitter?

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TwatCat · 07/10/2019 20:27

apple.news/ASnaEYf6LQziVLfL-zdqj3A

Just that.
I certainly won't be going to see it!
Surely they could've chosen a different song ffs!?!?

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Sallyseagull · 07/10/2019 20:32

I'm with you. I think when you're convicted of a crime as serious as the one hes guilty of your royalties should go to a fund to help victims of such crime.

Nottheduchess · 07/10/2019 20:33

They shouldn’t have used it, he shouldn’t get the money, I’ll still go and watch it.

Kittenbittenmitten · 07/10/2019 20:37

Hollywood is rife with paedophilia though. Every time you pay to see a film you are probably lining a paedophile's pocket.

nitgel · 07/10/2019 20:37

Thats the best part of the movie

Pandaintheporridge · 07/10/2019 20:38

Can't see the link without an app that I don't have

Mummyshark2019 · 07/10/2019 20:38

Didn't know that. Won't be watching it.

SilverChime · 07/10/2019 20:39

It’s a film about the consequences of child abuse and it features a song by a child abuser. I don’t doubt that it was a purposeful artistic choice. Also the same song was used in Meet the Fockers and nobody said a word about it.

AtillatheHun · 07/10/2019 20:43

The same song is used frequently at US sporting events. Copyright is not the proceeds of crime that can be confiscated, and the potential value of this use has been grossly overstated anyway. Also - you do presumably realise that there is a co writer for the songs nd musicians who played on it / the glitter band - do they all cease to have the right to earn a living?

Caucho · 07/10/2019 20:46

I doubt the majority of Americans know about Gary Glitter. It’s a popular song in sports stadiums. I’d find it hard to believe that the producers/ directors didn’t have it pointed out by someone however. They might have just thought the sickness added to the narrative or thought any controversy would be good . It’s not as if the Joker is supposed to be a nice person and there’s some kind of perverse humour to being invited to cheer on a sick psychopath to a tune of convicted paedophile

Pandaintheporridge · 07/10/2019 20:47

And yes I know no conviction in this case but... Michael Jackson played over and over.
Roman Polanski films.
Songs by wife-beaters and abusers are not banned from use.
I would assume Glitter won't have much time outside prison to enjoy any earnings, if he has a 15 year sentence at his age. I hope not anyway.

Bobbyflay · 07/10/2019 20:57

It’s credited to the Glitter Band not just Gary Glitter. You do not hear Gary Glitter singing in the film.

The rest of the Glitter Band will have suffered financially over the years due the crimes of one. Hopefully they can recoup some of their losses.

KUGA · 07/10/2019 21:03

Will not be watching.
Any money it makes for the vile b`stard should go to the other band members.

Oysterbabe · 07/10/2019 21:07

It is an absolutely fantastic film though.

Caucho · 07/10/2019 21:09

Anyway can’t wait to see it. Was critically acclaimed initially until a few SJWs started a campaign against it so if they don’t like it it sounds good for me.

Caucho · 07/10/2019 21:16

The lefty people against it are the same people who used to deride the conservative right when those they considered old farts blustered about TV leading to the end of moral standards or linking computer games to crime. Now they’re saying the same shit themselves and don’t even realise their hypocrisy. I’m a liberal in the true sense of the world and believe in freedom of speech and expression. It’s not real. It’s a movie. Neither is Grand Theft Auto. If people in real life are inspired by such shit there’s something already deeply wrong with them

SinkGirl · 07/10/2019 21:25

Absolutely ludicrous argument. The film and music industries are overflowing with abusive men making money regardless. Roman Polanski. R Kelly. Chris Brown. Gary Glitter. On and on and on...

There seems a lot of interest from some quarters in taking this film down. Much of the criticism of it before it came out and since is totally unfounded.

Would I love to never see a film directed by or starring or featuring music by a sexual abuser? Sure. Can’t see it happening in my lifetime.

Ponoka7 · 07/10/2019 21:33

"Would I love to never see a film directed by or starring or featuring music by a sexual abuser? Sure."

I used to feel the, same. But i like David Bowie and do still listen to his music. Likewise the Stones and even Elvis.

I'm alao a Jeepers Creepers fan.

Ponoka7 · 07/10/2019 21:34

And of course Prince.

dayswithaY · 07/10/2019 21:51

What did Prince do wrong?

GinDaddy · 07/10/2019 21:52

Good to see some people just literally lift the Daily Mail headline and state it like it's their own opinion Hmm

Gingerkittykat · 07/10/2019 22:37

It shows how little Hollywood cares, and how many members of the public who hate Glitter will still go and see the film.

I'm not putting a single penny in the pocket of a paedophile, or the people who support him.

ElizaPancakes · 07/10/2019 22:44

At least he’s in prison, unlike Roman Polanski. And as others have said, the whole band suffer for his misdeeds.

I agree with @SinkGirl.

Yambabe · 07/10/2019 22:53

It depends who owns the copyright for the song, any royalties due won't necessarily go to him anyway.

The song was co-written with Mike Leander so that takes his share down to a maximum of 50%. If, as was common in the 70s, the copyright belongs to a publishing or record company, or even a manager or agent, it will be even less.

He's not suddenly going to get showered in cash just cos his name was on the original record ffs, that's not how it works.

Polly111 · 07/10/2019 23:03

They should have used a different song. I was looking forward to seeing the film but don’t think I’ll bother now.

SinkGirl · 08/10/2019 09:07

I am most definitely a lefty and generally roll my eyes at the phrase virtue signalling but I don’t know what else to call this. First with all the panic about it glorifying incels (I despise incels but in this case it’s utterly unfounded), glorifying violence (if anyone watches this and thinks “yeah I want to be like that guy” then they’re already seriously unwell), and now this.

This track, despite the fact that Glitter was a co-writer, is very well known in the states. Glitter, not so much (hence all the tweets having to link to Wikipedia because they’re unaware of all this generally). It’s been frequently used in sports games for example and throughout popular culture, particularly at the time the film was set.

Roman Polanski is still directing films. I still hear “I believe I can fly” more often than I’d like. Bryan Singer is still working (he directed Bohemian Rhapsody in fact and I saw no such posts about that). Victor Salva is still working. Johnny Depp is still working. Bowie is still played.

For those repeating this, why is this different? Why is this 30 second clip of a song co written by a paedophile any different to films directed by paedophiles being critically lauded and nominated for awards?

It’s hypocrisy.

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