AIBU to wonder if it's time to abolish the monarchy?

[MyBeloved]

Having grown increasingly tired of their shennanigans, I think the monarchy should be abolished. AIBU?

For me it simply comes down to this.

No human being, no one life, weighs more than the next. They are just human beings like the rest of us. We established figure heads to look up to, to externalise our adoration but they cannot wield the weight and nor should they.

I think the monarchy is bad for the individuals born into it AND the rest of us. They have no freedom, no self efficacy. They are trapped whether they like it or not and the power has made them think they are above everyone else and in some cases they've done bad things.

Off with their heads. I see no reason for a monarchy in this day and age. Happy to get rid once the Queen goes.

I find it bizarre that grown ups would want to be ruled by a hereditary monarchy in this day and age. How infantile.

There’s a more complicated question around how to get rid of them. Assuming that no one has the appetite for revolution.

What something2say said.

I’d’ve thought the monarchy would’ve been bought down by Diana’s “mystery death”. Although Betty’s past her sell by, I don’t think Chas should ever be King, with him shaggin’ around with old whatserface behind Diana’s back. Hopefully between them Andrew & Meg will manage to bring the monarchy down between them. I knew they had a use for something.

Hopefully between them Andrew & Meg will manage to bring the monarchy down

I find it absolutely appalling you’d put them in the same sentence btw. Seriously, you think any faux pas she’s supposed to have done are comparable?

I wondered how long it would be before someone brought up the tired old cliche of “well it’s better than President Blair” .

I wasn’t disappointed - it didn’t take long.

The RF are an anachronism but you only have to read the royal threads on here to see there is still a lot of bowing and scraping alive and well in the UK. Thoroughly depressing.

It would be a special time in history to accept that the time has come to stop believing in false gods. To become more equal and to consider the earth and its inhabitants inter dependent. It would be wise, we would document and mark it, and things could then be different.

Its being discussed more widely now and I can see it eventually coming true, but probably later, in order to let everyone catch up with that way of thinking.

Let’s be rid of them. Once Elizabeth passes on, shut down the whole shitshow. Fed up with this anachronistic pantomime, can’t be bothered with the whole bowing and scraping and forelock- tugging that goes on even here.

*And yet plenty of other countries have apolitical Heads of State..

Ireland being one.*

Ireland have had some great presidents, especially the two Marys. A lot of people don't seem to get that a president in a parliamentary democracy is a very different thing from a president in a presidential system.

I think Betty should be the last monarch. Even though I disagree with the system, she has conducted herself admirably, through times of great change. Then we can all be citizens instead of subjects.

The tourism argument is nonsensical imo. Lack of kings and queens doesn't stop people from visiting France, Italy or the US, ffs. We'll still have all the historic buildings and so on. In fact, possibly more for people to see, as all the royal art and many of the buildings will be able to be accessible to us hoi-polloi.

The Irish system, a President with limited powers, works well, and offers the possibility of a head of state who has achieved something substantial in life, contributed to humanity in some way, commands international respect.

When HRH has shuffled off this mortal coil it is time.

I like having a monarchy and I don't have any problem with them or the fact that they get a small portuon of taxes to keep up their our estates and palaces.

Fixed that for you, @flyingspaghettimonster.

*"Although civil and criminal proceedings cannot be taken against the Sovereign as a person under UK law, The Queen is careful to ensure that all her activities in her personal capacity are carried out in strict accordance with the law"

Yup, a bit like diplomatic immunity. Which is obviously working out extremely well for Harry Dunn's poor family.*

I bloody hope the US seeks the extradition of Prince Paedo, then we could swap him for the woman who can't stay on the right side of the road in the country she was living in.

The fact that the Queen's remaining perogative powers can be so easily abused by unscrupulous politicians means the monarchy has to go or assume a truly ceremonial function with no perogative powers.

The royal prerogative is a nonsense in this day and age, and one of the biggest arguments against a monarchy (well, biggest constitutional argument). I wouldn't be surprised if some future monarch decides that it's loss would be a small price to pay for keeping all the rest of the trappings, and asks the government of the day to look into how the prerogative powers might be amended out of existence.

Yes, once the queen dies, however something i have always wondered, how would it be done? Other than a russian style revolution i mean

Also what would we do with them? Give them all council houses?

Even when they are no longer part of the royal family they can still cause great embarassment for the UK, here we have good old Fergie making sure the Saudis know we still love them.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7718721/Sarah-Duchess-York-cosies-Saudi-Crown-Prince.html

It’s not just the monarchy- it’s the aristocracy.

The monarchy falls so do they and good riddance.

Other than Andrew, I don't harbor any real ill-will towards any of them but, as an institution, its outdated at best and abhorrent at worst.