My dog bit another dog

[Lovemydogs11]

Ok so I have a little rescue dog from Romania. I have him him 2yrs 3months he is walked everyday and goes off lead. Today we was walking in our local wooded park and we was walking along a path with trees along one side and a lad with a spaniel walked past and his dog was in the trees with my dog. Suddenly his dog yelped and ran to owner and my dog had bit him on his side. My dog likes to chase so I dont know if his dog startled him and he chased it and grabbed its side but it was one puncture wound. I gave the lad my details. My dog had NEVER done this before. He will grumble and some dogs but never as much shown his teeth!! I am beside myself with worry he is such a loving little dog that plays and gets along with almost every dog he meets. The lad txt me saying dog had been to vets had stitches and antibiotics and they have contacted their insurance and he will let me know the outcome. I'm not sure what this means!!

If you want your dog to run free, you may want to consider a muzzle, just in case he nips a small child. Or keep your dog on a lead.

@Medievalist Yes there are situations where it is perfectly acceptable for dogs to growl. But this dog not only growls but now attacks without warning. So yeah, this one should be muzzled.

Nothing like a dog thread for bringing out the arseholes

But this dog not only growls but now attacks without warning

Uh? How did you get the dog "attacks" without warning?

@Lovemydogs11

OP. I really think you should reconsider your attitude to walking dogs off the lead, at least in public places. Reading your comment in an earlier post:

Right let's get 1 thing straight here! I am not an unresponsible dog owner! I have 2 dogs 1 been a 7yr old rottweiler and 1 been a 3yr old rescue. Both insured! Both my dogs are walked off lead, in the uk this is fine

Rottweilers are considered to be one of the fiercest dog breeds. This dog breed became popularly known as killer dogs because they have been involved in numerous human attacks. (www.cuddleyourdogs.com)

No dog is ever totally trustworthy. I read that some time go in relation to a child that was badly bitten by a dog. Even the police say their dogs cannot be totally trusted and actually in the U.K. it isn't alright to just have your dog off the lad in public places. As soon as it bites, as your dog did, it is difficult to say it was under control

Your dog likes to chase and you have him off lead

Op don't bother defending him. People here are hysterical about dogs. Monitor his behaviour closely for a few weeks and pay the bill and move on. Mine is soft as shit but there are two dogs nearby she hates with a passion. 13 years old and never so much as snapped at any others. Odd warning growl but no more and I have to grab her sharpish if I see one of them because if she catches them blood will be drawn.

Rottweilers are considered to be one of the fiercest dog breeds

That's completely untrue, media fuelled hysteria.

OP, ear infections are very painful. I think that's your culprit there but as you say your dog has grumbled at other dogs before (without knowing the context of the grumble) it might be an idea to do some desensitisation work with him.

www.amazon.co.uk/Behavior-Adjustment-Training-Frustration-Aggression/dp/1617810509/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&keywords=BAT+dog+training&tag=mumsnetforu03-21&qid=1570452559&sr=1-2

That's a great book that covers all the basics including the signs your dog is stressed by another dog and how to react to reduce the stress and prevent it escalating.

Of course, sometimes a dog is entitled to grumble. If the grumbles happen when another dog is misbehaving or ignoring your dog's boundaries then the grumbles are perfectly normal and not a sign that you are walking a mobile killing machine.

Your dog likes to chase and you have him off lead

Heaven forbid a dog should be allowed to indulge in doggy behaviour!!!

They need to cut out all that barking, licking, sniffing and playing too - outrageous! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

A dog thread always bring out the most uneducated animal behaviourists on MN!

I did enjoy the rottweiler comment- how dare you own a Rottweiler and let it off lead OP because of course every dog in that breed is a vicious monster!

I'm glad you went to the vet, the ear infection could be the cause for the snap, I'd keep them on a lead until it's cleared up. Once they are healed maybe reintroduce them to a friendly dog?

Marieg10

Dont you dare start on my rottweiler. You know fuck all about my rotti

As neither owner saw the incident and both dogs were off lead it’s perhaps more likely the spaniel has caught itself on a twig or piece of wire ? The spaniels I’ve seen in local parks and woods roam far and wide and quarter the territory, crashing through undergrowth etc . What the breed does maybe? If the other owner is claiming on Insurance make sure you see the vet report before you stump up the excess . I think you were a bit quick to offer to pay personally - as both dogs were off lead. I certainly wouldn’t expect a contribution unless I’d seen my dog bite .

“Don’t you dare”? Really?
Perhaps don’t let your dog off lead and out of sight and control around dogs when you know it growls at other dogs.
Certain breeds aren’t a particular problem but owners who refuse to take action when their dog has a history of growling are.

@TwoPupsandaHamster Errr, from reading the post. That's where I got it from.

IT WASNT MY ROTTWEILER THAT BIT THE DOG IT WAS MY SMALL DOG

Why the capitals? I’ve said the breed of certain dogs is irrelevant. But this dog has bitten, it has growled in the past and still you’re not heeding the warning?

The same thing happened to me, I was walking my Labrador and some ratty dog care running up and bit her. I was so annoyed like keep your dogs on leads if they attack other dogs!!

Errr, from reading the post. That's where I got it from

There is nothing at all on this thread that suggests the dog attacks without warning.

First nobody knows if the dog bit. The single puncture wound suggests a nip, rather than attack (if the dog made contact with the other dog that is). Both dogs were away from both owners when this incident happened. How do you know there was no warning? You don't! Stop making things up 🙄

I am a very experienced dog owner, 5 dogs over 40 years ( some of them overlapped) . My first was a little bit prone to getting into fights, sometimes they just meet another dog who winds them up and sometimes they just don't get on with a particular breed (2 of mine dislilked spaniels). Once you know they might get involved in this sort of thing you need to put a plan in place to stop it. Mine had good recall so I could guarantee they would come back when an arch enemy came over the horizon, then straight on to the lead.
OP, your dog is still quite young and likes to play and chase, it sounds to me it was probably a nip as part of play rather than with evil intent.
Pay the vets bill, put him on a lead when you are not 100% sure there are no other dogs about and only let him play chasing about wit other dogs whose owners are happy with this, in a confined area.

@Lovemydogs11 no need for the attitude FGS our posts crossed. You are extremely defensive with the don't you dare posts. Why you've come here for advice is beyond me.

@Lovemydogs11

*Marieg10

Dont you dare start on my rottweiler. You know fuck all about my rotti*

As Pavlova said...why you have asked for advice when you don't like the answer bemuses me.

If your dog is as aggressive as your post then I'm not surprised it is biting others.

I never said your Rottweiler was biting. I made the point that really should such a dog be off the lead in a public place. I had a point of view. You clearly don't agree but it is unnecessary to be so aggressive about it

OP - as I said earlier, you're on a hiding to nothing posting about dogs in AIBU. Double whammy.

It goes like this:

Dogs - should never be let off the leash or anywhere near small children. Require a behaviourist if they so dare to growl at another dog. Once they've committed a transgression they must NEVER EVER be given another chance. Their behaviour was undoubtedly triggered by aggression, never fear/illness/misunderstanding etc.

AIBU - op asks a question. A large number of posters pile in for the bun fight and find as many (largely invented) reasons as possible to have a go at the op. Then when the op protests and tries to get the debate back on a more reasonable level, the Mumsnet bullies shout - "aha! You asked us for advice and you don't like it!"

The experienced dog owners amongst us know where you're coming from. Ignore the ignorant.

@motherheroic

We dont know that the dog did atta k without warning. They were out of sight. It could have been the other dog that started.

And all the people saying that the next time it could be a small child. For crying out loud. It nipped another dog ONCE. That doesnt make it a danger to the public. It doesnt definitely mean it will bite a child. ONE bite does not mean that it has gone rogue or rabid or whatever it is you worrywarts are panicking about. My friend's dog really dislikes other dogs and has to be kept on a lead when out walking, but it is completely soft with children, including babies and toddlers. I know several other cases like this as well.

@Pavlovafaith @MarieG10

She posted on here because she was looking for some sensible advice, from people who understand dogs? Which she has got from some people. Unfortunately, she has also got a lot of verbal diarrhoea from the dog hating brigade, whose knowledge of canines wouldnt fill the back of a postage stamp.

Your dog is a street dog, born on the street , lived on the street, rummaged for food, fought for its territory and food. Get real, you people are delusional when it comes to these street dogs, why did you not rescue a dog from this country.