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To think he really has a new woman

58 replies

Joshesgalloshes · 04/10/2019 10:21

Husband ended our marriage at the end of the summer. He doesn’t love me anymore. He has been disengaged and absent for a number of years. He promised me that there is no other woman. Signs are that there is. Can I run them by you for your thoughts please?
Twice a week he arrives home after eleven pm. Meant to finish at six but often works late.
Has a gym bag full of
Toiletries which he takes in and out of his car to his room whenever he is going to be late.
He has s hiding moneyie being paid overtime cash in hand .
Very private with his phone and all passwords and on his phone when he is at home .
Angry and resentful towards me and kids.
Staying overnight in city that he works in.
More hygiene and grooming. New clothes etc.
Free To be with our kids every weekend. So I think of there is a woman she must have kids herself.
Nights he is home late are normally the same eg Monday and Thursday .
I’m turn as I know his work does involve late evenings but since April he has worked so much overtime yet there is no digital evidence of payment or time in lieu . I’m in a fog and would value clarity please.
Finally our children are very sensitive to his absence and are very emotional and full of anxiety. One of our children has asd, the other anxiety.

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Beansandcoffee · 04/10/2019 13:47

Op, don’t focus on the other woman. Just look after yourself and get him out of the house. Stay strong and look after yourself and the kids.

flirtygirl · 04/10/2019 14:42

Lots saying that even if he has someone it's not an affair. But I'd bet anything that if there is someone else, that there was an overlap and that's what prompted him to end things with his wife.

Very few men leave without someone else to go to. Obviously some do the right things and end the relationship first but it is rare.

Bluntness100 · 04/10/2019 15:13

How exactly does that help flirtygirl. It's like kicking someone when they are down. It's over. You've no way of knowing if there was n overlap. This is someone's life for God's sake.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 04/10/2019 15:23

My friend went through everything you discribed, her DH denied there was someone else but it was screamingly obvious to me. In the end he moved back to his parents and only then he admitted the new relationship. He was trying to protect her feelings.
So sorry op Flowers.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 04/10/2019 15:51

@Bluntness100, logically speaking, you are right that in the end it doesn't matter, but a lot of people will need a reason for why this is happening. Not healthy but extremely normal.

CSIblonde · 04/10/2019 16:01

Yes, the new clothes etc do say new woman to me. I'd agree with pp's, he needs to leave, so you can move on & make a new life, as its just amplifying your & the children's distress having this awful limbo.

Bluntness100 · 04/10/2019 16:05

Doingtheboxerbeat, I understand that, but the op is not going to know, she's asked her solicitor and her therapist and now on Mumsnet, so she's heavily focused on this,

Bottom line is if he is now involved with someone, he is allowed to be, but we can't tell her if he is or isn't,. The only person who can is him and he's saying no.

Keeping asking people if they think he is, isn't going to help her any.

GinNotGym19 · 04/10/2019 16:21

I think he’s squirrelling away money to avoid having to pay you it!
I’d try not to focus on if he’s having an affair yet but if you find any evidence keep it for the divorce.
Is there anywhere he can go whilst he waits for the other home to become vacant?

Joshesgalloshes · 04/10/2019 16:45

I am in Ireland and have to prove that we are separated for a year in order to legally separate unless there is evidemce of pre break up affair . Thanks .

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summersherewishiwasnt · 04/10/2019 16:58

Ask the kids?? If he is free to spend every weekend and you think it’s because his new woman has kids too, ask them !
Sounds like he has met someone or is at least looking.
It really matters not, just be glad you are wasting your affection of him any more.

ffswhatnext · 04/10/2019 17:25

He might have altered his actions simply because he is now single.
Many people do this.

And don’t ask the children as pp suggested. He might be seeing someone now and it’s nothing to do with op.

Start down the road of asking the dc’s and where does it end? Doubt the op would want him questioning them when they are finally living apart.

Joshesgalloshes · 04/10/2019 17:49

Frankly I wouldn’t take him back if he begged and pleaded BUT I do have a problem With a father of three children who literally does his own thing without a thought for his children or the person who is with them 24/7. He is definitely
Hiding money as he has started getting
Tight about money in the sense that he laughed in my face at the thought of 20% of his gross salary minus pension , being adequate maintenance . I would love to think I could keep the best part of 80% of my salary to myself like him but his interest in custody is limited and he has benefit in kind, pension and bonus . It’s a mans world for sure

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Joshesgalloshes · 04/10/2019 17:52

Neither of us want to get solicitors involved as far as court is concerned but if he fights me over providing for his children, I’m
All in . I can’t
Get over hiding money knowing that maintenance will be based on his salary and that maintenance is for his own flesh and blood. It’s hard to absorb . I Am Absolutely dying to get rid of him and away from Our darling children.

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flirtygirl · 04/10/2019 18:01

Sorry op I don't think its kicking you, if that's the reality, you sound like you would rather know to be able to deal with it.

It's not nice but neither is a husband saying out if the blue, that he no longer loves you.

flirtygirl · 04/10/2019 18:05

Get a copy of all the papers before he moves out. It sounds like he will not play fair.

If you proved an affair would it be in your interests to use it. If it would make it more acrimonious, then maybe just go for the year separation rule as a bit if time has already passed.

Joshesgalloshes · 04/10/2019 18:06

Hi sorry I don’t understand that last post ? Can you explain thanks

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Joshesgalloshes · 04/10/2019 18:09

I have all documents copied .
Also his salary cert stating
His usual overtime
And amount per hour and regularity of it .

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Joshesgalloshes · 04/10/2019 18:11

Finding out would expediate the process and if he didn’t pay maintenance or broke custody arrangements, I would have legal
Back up. Right now I can only
Take him at his word and his word
Means nothing .

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Joshesgalloshes · 04/10/2019 18:11

Proving an affair allows immediate separation here

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NearlyGranny · 04/10/2019 18:16

Note his patterns of movement and date them in a journal. It is obviously a very different sort of divorce if he is committing adultery rather than just a separation and he must know that.

There are still private investigators and it could be a worthwhile investment.

So sorry. This is horrible for you and your DC.

Joshesgalloshes · 04/10/2019 18:25

It is horrible , the most horrible thing is that I never ever knew that he could be capable of such. However this seems to be the script for many women. I’m
Dying to get into my home and make it an oasis of warmth and safety and happiness for the four of us . I really think the children will be ok with support , in time

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Piffle11 · 04/10/2019 18:38

Yep, he’s got another woman. Probably had her a while, and she is the reason he has left you. Unless things are monumentally bad, men don’t tend to leave their wives and children unless they have another woman’s bed to get into. A man told me that. The things you mention: these are all signs my sister had to face when she realised her DH was having an affair. He actually said to her ‘this isn’t working, I think we should split’ – but he had already been having an affair for six months at this point. I think men tend to meet someone else, make sure that it is actually going to last, and then make the decision to leave. I am so sorry you are going through this: you will be happier in the long run I am sure.

Moondancer73 · 04/10/2019 18:44

I think I'm missing the point here. You've already split, albeit not formally, and are living separate lives so if he is seeing another woman what business is it of yours? Does it really matter? As long as it doesn't affect your children and if he is late home two nights then you go out two nights I fail to see the issue here 🤷‍♀️

Chunkers · 04/10/2019 18:45

Would it be worthwhile hiring a PI, purely to help expedite the process?

TodoDoingDone · 04/10/2019 18:53

Yes, moondancerthe OP says it does matter for legal reasons, and getting a quicker seperation.

It's a horrible situation for you op. Flowers

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