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My ex is a psycho

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SkinnyEx · 03/10/2019 09:46

AIBU to point out that this is a Red Flag?

If only I had considered that there might have been a reason why he said that his ex was a psycho. He's probably saying it about me.

To the skinny new girlfriend, he will lovebomb you, then he'll start to fatshame you, he'll criticise you, verbally abuse you, emotionally abuse you, and he'll probably beat you up. Like he did me.

I could tell you, but he'll just say I'm a psycho, and you'll probably believe him. Years down the line you'll realise that your loveable rogue is a violent thug.

Have a look at www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3707711-Rosie-Duffield
Thanks.

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Pinkbonbon · 08/10/2019 13:57

Umm I tend to go either for dance or for old emo songs xD so might be an acquired taste haha. But the angsty emo helps get the anger out. And the dancey stuff just gets your endorphins going to cheer you up :)

Emo:
The kill by 30 seconds to mars
I'm not OK by my chemical romance

Dance
Good girls go bad (no idea who sings this, I just YouTube the song name n it comes up).
Stiff kittens by blaqk audio

And...ah can't think. I'll go have a dance myself n see what gets brought up xD

Pinkbonbon · 08/10/2019 14:02

Actually no skip stiff kittens.

Ooh I do love a bit of lady gaga though. Especially telephone.

SkinnyEx · 08/10/2019 14:12

Thank you Pinkbonbon. Quite different to what I usually listen to.
It might do me good.

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Pinkbonbon · 08/10/2019 14:18

Yeah mix it up a little. I'm stuck in 2006-12 music wise xD

But when I'm listening to the dance stuff I like to look at the recommendation section beneath the vid on YouTube to try their suggestions. Found some fun stuff that way. Ds neighbours probably hate me xD

SkinnyEx · 08/10/2019 14:24

My taste is quite varied but a bit retro. I seem to like stuff from before I was born.:-D I'm not in the 21st century yet.

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Pinkbonbon · 08/10/2019 14:45

Bit of an 80's fan personally. Not sure I can call myself an 80's girl as I only saw two years of it xD but yeah there's a world of music out there, I should try to listen to more. I came across Ludovico einaudi 'diverne' (sp?) the other day and found myself crying xD its so pretty. Definitely not something to dance to though lol

SkinnyEx · 08/10/2019 14:50

This is taking my mind off him. I thought the 80s were bad musically but the 70s brilliant.

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Pinkbonbon · 08/10/2019 14:56

I can't think of much from the 70s. Care to recommend anything n I'll have a listen next time I'm getting my groove on? Lol

SkinnyEx · 08/10/2019 16:10

I can't think of anything you might like but I like cheesy music. Grin
Some of the post 1976 punk and new wave.
I like Bauhaus. The passion of lovers is a favourite.

I am having a bad day again. God I hate that man. Angry

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Gingerkittykat · 08/10/2019 17:57

Hate is good, it means you are putting the anger and blame where it belongs and not on yourself.

SkinnyEx · 08/10/2019 19:58

I blame myself for not going to the police over the beating but I was scared of repercussions.
He was vile to me.

Loud music, dancing, keep busy.

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GingersAreLush · 08/10/2019 20:05

YANBU it’s a massive red flag I think. I’m also highly sceptical of a man who says he’s not allowed to see his kids because his ex is a bitch or whatever and won’t let him. Maybe she won’t let him. Maybe he’s actually not allowed. Or maybe he can’t be arsed but it looks better on him if he can blame her.

You need to focus on yourself and your recovery. You can’t help her right now. Resolve to promise yourself that if she ever asks for your honest opinion you will give her it. But getting involved now won’t help you. Especially if she inevitably tells you to fuck off.

GingersAreLush · 08/10/2019 20:08

I blame myself for not going to the police over the beating but I was scared of repercussions.

Easier said than done but please don’t blame yourself you’ve not done anything wrong to make any of this your fault. And it’s not easy reporting it- it can be massively traumatic in itself.

SkinnyEx · 08/10/2019 20:26

Yes, it would have brought it all back.
If only I had picked up on that first red flag.
He was lovely to me to begin with, unless I commented on anything in a way that could be seen as a criticism.
He was a big lad and joked about it but any suggestion that he lost weight for his health would start the 'you're the one with the problem'.
Then drip drip drip comments about my MH.

Vile vile man. Yet he's popular. Loads of friends. Nobody would believe me.

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ChangedMyNameYetAgain · 10/10/2019 09:21

The ex not letting me see the kids is definitely a red flag. Hope you are ok Skinny.

SkinnyEx · 10/10/2019 16:13

Yes, I'm ok thanks.
So many red flags that if you know to look for them, you would not bother to get to know someone.

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Anony95 · 10/10/2019 17:07

Been there, exactly the same thing. I was really thin and young when I met my ex 11 years older than me. His psycho ex and I talked, and funnily enough had a lot of similar stories. He's now abusing younger girls (he's 36 and one of them was just 17). And you'd never know it at the start what they're like until you feel trapped by their sob stories to stay with them.

SkinnyEx · 10/10/2019 17:21

He was lovely at the start. Seemed completely smitten.
Then once the next target came along the mindgames started, he still seemed so supportive. Nothing was ever his fault.

Age gaps are a red flag too. 11 years is too big a gap but 36 and 17 and you're talking old enough to be her father. Ugh.

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ChangedMyNameYetAgain · 14/10/2019 10:48

@Antibles posted this on the Rosie Duffield thread, so I thought I would share it.
*..I totally agree that there should be more education on this. Red flags are identified and teachable. So many learn from bitter experience instead.

sociopathlife.com/2015/04/27/red-flags/*

Hope the link works.

SkinnyEx · 25/10/2019 10:32

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AnnaNimmity · 29/11/2019 09:45

Hi Skinnyex

Just seen this from the other thread. I'm a psycho ex too! Hello!

Lots of what you say resonates with me. I would check out NPD for your ex. For me, while he was with me mine also talked about a psycho ex - who he left over and over again, - and she sounds like your one- 25 years younger than him, ED, lots of issues. When he left me, I plunged into a cycle of anxiety and also stopped eating - but stopped short of developing an eating disorder. (C-ptsd on the other hand...). Mine ended up attacking me, and I was injured both physically and mentally. He's now telling everyone that I am lying about it. So I'm not just a psycho, but I'm a liar (and I'm lying apparently because I feel rejected Hmm).

Mine didn't do the fat shaming - in fact he wanted me to put on weight - but he definitely had very fixed (and controlling) views about clothing and hair and make up.

I have just read Lundy Bancroft - age gaps are a big red flag. because the abusive man is taking advantage of vulnerability/ Lots of others too which are listed in there. My ex ticks them all. Have you read it?

Oh and the Rosie Duffield speech - the bit about him owning her. Mine used to say that " who do you belong to?" I really should have run a mile at that. Lundy Bancroft says the basis of abuse is that the man thinks he owns you, he wants to possess you. You are just an object to him (to dress, to fuck, to control) and he'll do what it takes to keep that control of you - including violence if need be. I wish I had read that book before I met him.

SkinnyEx · 15/12/2019 16:00

Thanks AnnaNimmity,
I don't know if it was NPD, but he was (is?) very overweight. The ex wasn't AFAIK much younger than him, maybe 5 yrs. It was quite a coincidence that she had AN and the OW is a recovered anorexic.
When I found out about OW I didn't eat for a couple of days, taking me from quite slim to underweight.

If ever I mentioned his weight or commented on an overweight person eating 3 stinky burgers on the train, it was me who had the problem.
My teeth were "horrible". I made no effort to dress nicely (couldn't see any point when I was out and about with a cheap rate middle-aged humpty dumpty lookalike)

With hindsight, he couldn't take any criticism. I'm not the type to criticise, so I learnt to not say anything. I did wonder if he had been aggressive in the workplace. Anything that could have been vaguely interpreted as criticism were projected on to me.

He made up stories about me - my drink problem (I can't hold my drink but that is probably because there isn't much of me, and being with a heavy drinker didn't help), being unfaithful (not true and quite ridiculous), being a psycho (I don't think so), having MH issues (I was gutted when I found out but that is normal).

I never felt I was a possession, but when we first me he wanted to show me off to his friends. Initially, I didn't want to be shown off to a pubfull of people as the girlfriend, but would have been fine meeting one or two at a time.

He didn't try to control what I wore or how I did my hair. I don't think he tried to control me, but that he checked out of the relationship when OW became single but didn't bother to tell me.

The lies he told me, the things he didn't tell me, the things I don't quite know the truth about, the verbal and emotional abuse about have tarnished any warm memories I had.

The trying to get me sectioned - when he rang for the police and ambulance, it was like he'd done it before.

The beating I have compartmentalised - it seems nothing compared to the emotional abuse, but I suspect that I was lucky as he attacked me with some force.

He had a female (girl?)friend who had committed suicide about 20 yrs ago, who he said about " I loved her". This meant that any sadness I felt about friends who have passed away were dismissed as insignificant.

It is just so strange. Presumably his friends and family and the police were told that he acted in self defence - he weighed about 2.5 times my body weight.

I'll look out for the Lundy Bancroft book. I didn't realise the author was male.

It's a few months down the line now and I am trying to get over it.

Thanks to everyone for their advice. I am glad that Rosie is still an MP.

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slipperywhensparticus · 15/12/2019 16:08

My ex likes broken women his first wife is one and he mistakenly thought I was too but then I got pregnant and trapped now he has a third wife to be she has lost all her kids to social services is a drinker but he is straightening her up and putting her on the right path he couldnt be prouder of her and she will be getting her younger two children back soon apparently (the rest have been adopted) personally I wish his mask would slip but he seems to have everyone fooled even the social services who said if I got back in a relationship with him they will remove our children from us are happy for him to be guardian of two other children which aren't his...you just couldnt make this shit up really he is swanning around like king shit of turd mountain I'm just left getting on with life and picking up the pieces when he let's the kids down again

SkinnyEx · 15/12/2019 16:25

Oh slippery, that's terrible.

I had a quick " Look Inside" at the LB book, and it did remind me that two of XP's close friends had DV records.

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