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Using reusable wipes but then flying to Australia.

80 replies

ecobore · 03/10/2019 07:29

What's the point.

OP posts:
SoupDragon · 03/10/2019 07:37

They are two different, unrelated issues.

calmalamadown · 03/10/2019 07:38

Are they banned in Australia? How will they know you've used them?

CAG12 · 03/10/2019 07:40

Are you saying that you're being eco-friendly by usuing re-usable wipes, but then contradicting yourself by flying to Oz?

IfIShouldFallFromGraceWithGod · 03/10/2019 07:41

So if a person decides to have a once in a lifetime trip to visit family in Australia they must never bother to use reusable, recycle, walk not drive
Is that how it works? Confused

OneThreadOnly0101 · 03/10/2019 07:42

I fly a fair amount, due to circumstance (I live in a different country to family) and choice (I like to travel).

Are you suggesting that I should do my best to be even more environmentally unfriendly?

Icantthinkofanewname87 · 03/10/2019 07:43

Don’t be silly. Making small changes still helps! The small changes probably all add up to just as much if not more than not making one big trip! Don’t be such a negative grump.

Hwory · 03/10/2019 07:44

To lessen the impact?

You realise being eco-friendly isn’t an either or situation right? It’s not either do nothing or do everything. There is a middle ground.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 03/10/2019 07:44

It is better to do something imperfectly than nothing perfectly.

BinkyandBunty · 03/10/2019 07:45

Doing something is better than doing nothing?

It's really mean, and unrealistic and a bit stupid to criticise people for taking a few steps to reduce waste or carbon footprint because they haven't suddenly managed to go 100% vegan/organic/carbon neutral/stone age overnight. Smacks of trying to divert attention away from one's own lack of action.

Icantthinkofanewname87 · 03/10/2019 07:45

Also agree with @OneThreadOnly0101. I too live abroad due to the nature of my work. Should I never fly home to see my family? Or should I just make sure that I’m as wasteful as possible, because if I’m going to take flights then I might as well?

MonChatEstMagnifique · 03/10/2019 07:45

Well it better than using disposable wipes and flying to Australia.

TheJoxter · 03/10/2019 07:45

Making one change still makes a difference. Got to start somewhere, it’s not a choice between doing nothing eco friendly or producing no waste at all, there’s a lot of middle ground.

The people who brag endlessly about how much they do for the planet but still fly to Australia are ones you’re allowed to be annoyed at though!

LisaSimpsonsbff · 03/10/2019 07:46

People love this argument - they crack it out a lot to tell me how it's pointless me being vegetarian if I'm not vegan, while they eat their steak. It lets people who do nothing feel superior to those doing something.

TabbyMumz · 03/10/2019 07:47

The plane is going to go to Australia whether you are on it or not. Besides which, it would never be a good idea to stop travel, and the alternative is going by boat. Isn't that worse with all the fuel and other emissions?

Timeless19 · 03/10/2019 07:49

You can do both, nobody is perfect. Personally I try to be mindful of the environment and mitigate my impact where I can, but I will still go on holiday a couple of times a year.

Pitterpatterpettysteps · 03/10/2019 07:50

George Monbiot compared the impact of eating a leg of lamb with a trans-Atlantic flight. His initial estimate suggest the environmental impact of the two was similar. Actually the lamb of leg has slightly less impact, but the point stands. Lots of the small, everyday things we do can have a big impact, especially when taken cumulatively.

Personally, I think the most important things that all of us should be doing are
A) stop constantly consuming, especially meaningless plastic crap, cheap gadgets from Amazon etc
B) Stop driving everywhere

Naomimi · 03/10/2019 07:50

I’m sure there are things you could do better from an environmental perspective too, OP. It’s good that whoever this is has the environment on their radar and is taking positive action, however small. To riff off Lisa’s comment, better 1 billion people doing zero-waste imperfectly than 100 people doing it perfectly (which is nigh on impossible, anyway).

Pitterpatterpettysteps · 03/10/2019 07:51

Oh and C) cutting right down on meat

stucknoue · 03/10/2019 07:52

Reusable wipes are about plastics and landfill not the same issue

LaurieMarlow · 03/10/2019 07:53

I’m not particularly sanguine about our ability to stop climate change, but we’ll never get anywhere with this ridiculous attitude.

Always better to do something than nothing.

If we’re holding out for perfection we’ll be waiting a long time.

CactusAndCacti · 03/10/2019 07:53

Well it is a bit too far to walk.

OneThreadOnly0101 · 03/10/2019 07:53

Is it better to be a frequent-travellling vegetarian or a meat eater who holidays in the garden?

Metempsychosis · 03/10/2019 07:53

I’m confused OP. I don’t fly but I eat meat. Do I have to start going to the Maldives on holiday?

Preggosaurus9 · 03/10/2019 07:54

Haha!

Buddytheelf85 · 03/10/2019 07:56

As PP have said, because it’s better than using disposable wipes and flying to Australia.

Sorry but this argument is cracked out all the time and it’s just so, so stupid. What’s the point in walking to work if you’re not vegan? What’s the point in using reusable nappies if you own a car?

Incidentally , I find reusable wipes way better that disposables. Disposables just smear the poo around and you need soo many to clear up a big one.

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