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To have had an affair and not regretted it?

69 replies

theyvegotme · 29/09/2019 14:25

It was over ten years ago. I'd married young to an abusive twat.

The OM was no angel but he showed me that a relationship could actually be enjoyable, not endless misery.

No children involved. I'm not with the OM and he subsequently split up with his wife. No contact now.

I've never cheated since. Now a happy, wife and mother.

I value that experience actually- bit of an insight into the complexities of human nature as well as giving me the confidence to leave.

On MN, I get the impression that I should be condemned forever.

My DH knows what happened all those years ago.

OP posts:
Hopoindown31 · 29/09/2019 16:40

I would think that you and your DH have nicely rug swept that issue and it will come back when the kids have left home.

But that's just me.

blueshoes · 29/09/2019 17:32

I don't even know what OM's first wife looked like.

This is neither here nor there. If anything, you wilfully chose to disregard her as a human being with feelings and her own version of events.

blueshoes · 29/09/2019 17:35

I do think you should feel bad that you hurt someone. The fact you don't make you sound like a shit person.

I agree with this.

Sorry you were abused but it does not give you the right to hurt someone else in order to save yourself. By not feeling bad about it, you sound just shit having been shat on.

MyFavouritePlace · 29/09/2019 17:51

I can understand why you may feel justified in cheating on your first husband but your coldness towards the DW of the OM seems callous. You and the OM hurt her. So what if she remarried and got the house. Not sure I understand the point you are trying to make.

Maseandmum · 29/09/2019 17:54

I can understand you cheating, but not with a married man. You should regret hurting his ex wife, regardless of if you feel you owe her anything or not.

FuckYouInfertility · 29/09/2019 18:04

I'm married to my first (and hopefully only!) Husband and have never cheated.

But I do understand pain, abuse and feeling trapped in a situation, and how it can make you do things you didn't think you would.

It's very rarely as easy as 'if you're not happy, leave. Simples'.

It's a completely different situation but my grief has made me want to do all sorts of things, including packing in my job tomorrow with no back up, running away from my family who I love etc etc... These are all things that would be incredibly selfish but that in the moment I genuinely think about doing.

I try not to judge anyone too harshly when it comes to things like this on MN. It's not as black and white as people often think.

I think I would feel some sympathy towards his ex wife though, although as you say, you didn't technically owe her anything.

tuliprose90 · 14/10/2019 16:36

I used to think that having an affair was just down right wrong, and I guess it is in most situations. But I have read through lots of these posts on different threads regarding affairs and so many are extremely judgmental.

I think unless you've walked the walk and been there you can't judge. Yes, it is wrong, but every situation is very different. It's not black or white

LagunaBubbles · 14/10/2019 16:44

When you've been ground down to your emotional bones however, silent subversion is all you can manage

Having an affair though is not really "silent subversion".

Prestoli · 14/10/2019 16:49

You're trolling right?

HoneyBeeHappy · 14/10/2019 17:00

OP, I wonder if you do actually regret the affair, but you need to feel that you don’t. Why else would you come on to a forum and profess that you had an affair and have no regrets? What purpose does that serve other than to help you to validate what you did in the past?

For context, I had an affair eight years ago. My ex husband was emotionally abusive on every level. I had never heard of coercive control until recently but he ticked all the boxes.

Never physical, always emotional. Made me move away from my friends and family on several occasions, actually every time we got settled somewhere and I started to make friends. Switched off the boiler in the garage so I couldn’t have the heating on when he wasn’t home. Put taps and bugs in the house, told me that because I liked a bit of rough sex it was as if I enjoyed him raping me. FWIW he never did, but the suggestion was there.

I could go on but you get the idea. And truth is that it happened so slowly throughout our marriage that I didn’t see it until it was right there on top of me so to speak.

So when I started chatting to someone and we got closer I suddenly realised that it was possible to have people in the world who liked me for me.

We got far too close too quickly and ended up sleeping together once.

My H found out and filed for divorce. He would actually have taken me back, but at that point I realised that I had permission to leave.

And you know, for those who say that if you’re unhappy you should just leave, it really isn’t that simple when people feel that leaving for any other reason than infidelity or DV is wrong. I was actually told that I would be unreasonable to leave or expect support from anyone if I ever left, and this was from family.

Anyway I left, I didn’t get together with OM, and it didn’t matter what I had been through before, because in the eyes of others an affair obliterates all other wrongs. As soon as you have an affair all the other wrongs were probably your fault as well.

But unlike you, I regret having an affair more than anything else in my life. When things have gone wrong for me (and they have, on a huge level,) I wonder if this is actually karma coming back to bite me for the hideous person I obviously was/am.

I dread the day ex sits the DC down and tells them what I’ve done as he has promised to do. And for what it’s worth, he is now equally gaslighting and abusive to his new partner.

But the difference here is that I do regret having the affair, and the only reason why I talk about it on here is because it’s not only the destruction of a family which can result, but the destruction of your personal self.

I left an abusive marriage, but I think less of myself now than ex could have made me feel, and sometimes I question whether I should just have stayed.

But I still maintain that affairs are not black and white. But they are still not a good thing to do. Not to others, and equally not to yourself.

Needing to come on here and shout from the rooftops that you’ve had an affair but have no regrets just makes you look a bit proud of what you’ve done. Or alternatively that you need someone to tell you that what you did wasn’t wrong.

MsMD · 14/10/2019 17:14

I don't judge you for the affair I judge you for the selfish awful way you're speaking about another woman who did nothing wrong.

The fact that OM first wife got hurt is sad, but ultimately I don't owe her anything

You're awful.

DonnaPaulsenSpecter · 14/10/2019 17:28

The fact that OM first wife got hurt is sad, but ultimately I don't owe her anything

And that says it all about you really. Absolutely selfish.

Would be interesting to see your reaction if you found out your current husband is cheating on you. I mean after all, if he is, the other woman doesn't owe you anything. Wink

Why you are sharing this is beyond me, but decent people end unhappy relationships before getting involved with others, and they certainly do not ruin someone else's marriage.

But, you're happy with that arsehole decision, so good for you, YouTube yourself a round of applause.

SoreThroatToday · 14/10/2019 17:36

Affairs are never ok. Couldn't you have split form your "abusive twat" before getting it on with someone else?

SoreThroatToday · 14/10/2019 17:37

Oh yeah - and he should have split with his partner before getting it on with you. Hmm

TheSandman · 14/10/2019 17:43

@tumbleisatwat Interesting idea, that we can be culpable for the actions we inspire others to take?

I think, legally, it's called 'incitement'.

Namenic · 14/10/2019 17:49

Still it’s mean to the OM’s wife. Sure he’s more to blame, but might it have been possible to leave and be single without having had the affair? I don’t know.

Would you be upset now if someone had an affair with your DH now, knowing you were married?

Amibeingnaive · 14/10/2019 20:41

I had an affair 11 years ago. It lasted less than six months and, in theory, it ended perfectly for me: OM left his wife for me and we've been together ever since - married with DC, forever home etc. In short, everything I dreamed of but never expected to get; the happy ending.

But I still have regrets. I shouldn't have behaved so shoddily to my then-DP and DH's ex-wife. He feels the same. We went about it really badly, and I will always regret the pain we caused. The saving grace is that there were no kids involved (I wouldn't have gone there) and that all parties are in happy, long-term relationships.

However well these things turn out, it's a shitty thing to do. I was very selfish at 23, in a way I am not now. If I had my head turned now, I like to think I'd have the courage to end my relationship before pursuing another. And enough decency (and self-respect) not to shag someone else's husband.

Amibeingnaive · 14/10/2019 20:47

And, hypocritical as it sounds, after what I've just said, I don't buy the 'I don't owe her anything' argument.

Apply that logic to stealing someone's handbag...

'Well, I don't owe her anything, do I? I liked the look of it, so why shouldn't I take it, if it's just sitting there, unguarded?'

We all owe each other a bit of decency. I didn't really appreciate that all those years ago, but I've grown up a lot in the interim.

Drabarni · 14/10/2019 20:48

ew, skanky. Not the affair, the lack of emotion.
You need help.

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