Jeremy Corbyn and DD

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I am so worried about what will happen if Labour get in and implement their stated policy on closing down independent schools. It is literally keeping me awake at night worrying about what might happen to DD.

DD is in her 30s, just split from her OH and works as a teacher and housemistress at an independent school. If it is taken over by the state, she stands to lose her home (she lives in the boarding house) and possibly her job. Her school has tiny classes and a state school would need far fewer teachers for the bigger class sizes.

Of course she could come and live in our spare room if necessary, but hardly desirable for someone who has lived away from home for years.

Please tell me I am silly to be so worried!

FFS get a grip people

Even if Labour get in every policy has to be voted through parliament with a majority so you probably won't have to sell your first born or have a stranger living in your spare bedroom. Extremes are always touted at conference but very few come to fruition.

As for sleepless nights because your daughter might loose her job Jaysus Christ you really need help with your anxiety.

I don’t understand your concern tbh, even if her existing job ended she could get another at a state school if needed. And she could rent a place, no? Like everyone else? Why do you even mention that she has just split up from her partner?

Why hasnt she saved up to buy her own place?

It won’t happen labour won’t get in, not with JC anyway.

Sink I mean smaller classes is huge help so how will no small classes help when more troubled kids are put into system with no capacity for smaller classes.

Sorry, what? Are private schools full of troubled kids now?

I've seen several children excluded from the school where I work in the last couple of years. They have without exception been white and poor. A significant number suffered from neglect and a significant number had undiagnosed SEN. They were all vulnerable children let down by a lack of support in a school that couldn't afford to employ enough adults to give them the support they needed, an underfunded social care system that couldn't give them and their families the help they needed, and a chronically underfunded system of assessment and diagnosis that meant SEN were left undiagnosed and therefore unsupported.

Tell me again what great things the conservatives are doing and how scary Labour are?

My heart breaks for children like these every day I am in work and I know it does for my colleagues too. Unfortunately, when these children have been let down so long and so consistently that their behaviour becomes unsafe for other children and staff, there is little choice but to exclude them from the school. I'm glad I'm not the one having to make that decision. I have yet to see one of the rich/middle-class kids trashing a classroom in rage, or assaulting a member of staff. Being arrogant and rude at times, yes. Struggling with difficult issues at home, yes. But not that rage-inducing total lack of hope that hits the poor children when they reach an age of realisation that their life sucks and will likely always suck.

nobody those cases are heartbreaking but with respect it is not, or shouldn't be, the school's job. You mentioned the social care system- id vote for a party who vowed to raise income tax for ALL and used that money to improve social care and support vulnerable families so that schools could actually teach.

The school does have a part to play. If the children were given enough support to access the learning in school then they would be much less likely to behave in such extreme ways. But yes, it is a much wider issue to solve.

sorry OP but your adult (I assume NT child ) will just have to find another job, like anyone else....
I really do not have sympathy for people like the op, I will save it for children with SEN/SN who are not being educated.

Oh, well since you put it like that we should avoid any attempt to provide some sort of equality in the educational system, otherwise your daughter might have to look for a new teaching job. God forbid she might have to teach the occasional child who lives in a council house and - gasp - rent her home privately like some sort of plebeian.

Fuck me.

On a side note. Private Education isn't just about the actually academic education. The pastoral care, the opportunities, competitive sport, music, drama, the facilities, the extra curricular activities they offer. DC's school has a farm and they grow their on food. JC wouldn't support this into state schools.

As an ex private school pupil and ex teacher ( state and private) i can tell you that i hate private efucation but unfortunately it cannot be stopped.
State education just needs more funding.
Private school is a hotbed of entitled privaledge. I also went to state before private and loved it but it was struggling.

Having taught in a private and in a pupil regeral unit, id take throwing chairs over surreptitious svheming, being filned and threatened ( at private...yes really) any day. Funnily enough i never saw a chair thrower at state school but i had a pen thrown at my head in private...go figure.

Never saw a chair thrown in a pupil referal unit come to think of it.

So many typos...sorry...been on a night shift and cannot use phone .
Seruptitious scheming ....etc

I think JC is very dangerous and will definitely not vote Labour.

Corbyn really is Shroediner’s politician. Simultaneously utterly ineffective and terrifyingly dangerous......

*Schrödinger

I think bojo is very dangerous and will definitely not vote Tory.

Johnson is the one whipping up division and civil unrest! At least as regards Brexit Corbyn is the one looking for a compromise postition (as was Theresa May). It's the current cabinet you need to be scared of. Tory MP on the daily politics encouraging riots

I think JC is very dangerous and will definitely not vote Labour

What are you scared of?

Why would you not want every single child in the UK to get the very best education, not just the ones who happen to have wealthy parents, there's so much potential being squashed and swept under the carpet. Though I doubt it will happen I'm with JC on this every child regardless of class, wealth and social standing, disability and health should get the absolute best education, it's the very foundation of a successful society.

Why would you not want every single child in the UK to get the very best education, not just the ones who happen to have wealthy parents of course, that's what we would all like. Banning one type of education won't achieve that though. Higher taxation would be a better solution.

Jesus these threads 🙄 People are literally dying as a result of Tory policies and yet MN are worried about private schools closing. A dose of reality needed I think

Wealthy people... Pay taxes... Oxymoron?

Malificent why did you teach in a private school if you think they are so awful and you disapprove of private education?