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AIBU to never want to use this airline?

82 replies

Honeybee85 · 27/09/2019 01:39

www.bbc.com/news/business-49836599

I appreciate that sitting next to a stranger’s baby or toddler on a long flight is not something most people would choose. But what about all the adults causing nuisance on a plane, drunk people, rude people, smelly people? I have experienced more middle aged men then babies being a source of annoyance during flights.

Also, as a mum of a young baby I would be afraid this kind of information might attract the wrong kind of people with bad intentions deliberately booking a seat next to my child.

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FelicityBeedle · 27/09/2019 01:51

Don’t be ridiculous. You can’t predict drunk people but you can predict that babies and children will be noisy.

Also surely you will also be sat next to your child? What on earth can a ‘bad intentioned’ person do with you right there

QueenofPain · 27/09/2019 01:59

What’s any with “bad intentions” going to do to your child when they’re sat next to you?

Seems a good idea to me, don’t know how you can begrudge anyone the opportunity to sit elsewhere if they want to and that information is readily available to them. Would your rather people were forced to sit next to your kid and to hell with their quiet enjoyment of the flight?

100PercentThatBitch · 27/09/2019 02:03

Do you fly to Japan regularly OP?

Honeybee85 · 27/09/2019 02:07

@Queenofpain, what about falling asleep as a parent? Or going to the bathroom alone for just a moment? There have been reported cases of people being sexually assuaulted on a flight by the person sitting next to them.

As I wrote, I appreciate that people might not want to sit next to someone elses toddler or baby but by introducing this option as an airline, Japan Airlines seems to say: ‘yes, little children are a nuisance that you should avoid’.

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Honeybee85 · 27/09/2019 02:07

@100PercentThatBitch

I live in Asia

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PatricksRum · 27/09/2019 02:10

Do you fly to Japan regularly OP?
Howling Grin

Expressedways · 27/09/2019 02:13

Meh we’ve flown a lot with ours and this doesn’t bother me in the slightest. If you really wanted to book a seat next to an infant (WTAF are you suggesting Confused) it’s pretty easy to see where the bassinet seats are on any airline’s seat map. Personally I don’t like to sit next to anyone I don’t know so I don’t fly economy.

PatricksRum · 27/09/2019 02:13

OP if there are three seats couldn't you sit in the middle?
How old is your child?

QueenofPain · 27/09/2019 02:14

That’s your problem OP, you’d have to take your child with you. If you were sat in any public restaurant you’d need to take appropriate steps to make sure nobody molested your child when you went to the toilet or if you randomly fell asleep.

I’m sure there are far easier ways for peadopholes to access kids than randomly booking an expensive flight to Japan, selecting a seat next to a child and hoping the guardian goes to the toilet for 3 minutes.

PatricksRum · 27/09/2019 02:15

I’m sure there are far easier ways for peadopholes to access kids than randomly booking an expensive flight to Japan, selecting a seat next to a child and hoping the guardian goes to the toilet for 3 minutes.

GrinGrinGrinGrin

Honeybee85 · 27/09/2019 02:15

@PatricksRum mine is a small baby of just a few months old. I will be travelling alone with him from Asia back to Europe regulary since husband doesnt have too many days off from work.

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Expressedways · 27/09/2019 02:16

And when I fly solo and need to go to the loo if DD is asleep or more likely these days engrossed in a cartoon I ask the crew to keep an eye on her. When she was a tiny baby I’d get a flight attendant to hold her. If needs be I take her with me!

Honeybee85 · 27/09/2019 02:17

@QueenofPain

JA as far as I know doesnt only provide flights from and to destinations in Japan, but is also connecting other destinations in Asia to Europe and vice versa.

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PatricksRum · 27/09/2019 02:18

@Honeybee85 Nope you shouldn't leave a young baby unattended for that amount of time.
I'd get a sling and use it if you need to go to the toilet.
You shouldn't leave them unattended on any airline at that age.

QueenofPain · 27/09/2019 02:18

You’ll probably be really lucky and get an entire row to yourself as nobody in their right mind would deliberately select a seat next to someone else’s baby if they had a selection of other ones to choose from.

QueenofPain · 27/09/2019 02:21

In fact most kids own parents don’t even want to sit with them, which is well evidenced by the recurring MN threads about whether they should bother to pay for pre-allocated seats next to their offspring or just leave them sat with a stranger.

finn1020 · 27/09/2019 02:40

Gosh I’d use that if I could, I’d have been happy not have to sit near my own kids at times on flights but obviously as a parent you do. I certainly don’t want to sit near someone’s unsettled wriggly baby if I can avoid it, and pretend that I’m interested in their PFB and don’t mind the disruption they’re causing to my plans to relax, watch a movie and avoid interacting with people I will never see again.

Of course children are a nuisance at times best avoided particularly on a long flight, why do you think it’s wrong to admit to that? Not everyone is as interested in your kid as you are and I really think you’re being a bit irrational to think that someone with dubious intent would deliberately book near you in order to get their hands on your child. If anything you’re more likely to be landed with a seat mate who is quite happy to amuse your baby or toddler and is unbothered by them if they’re unsettled, which could lead to a better flight experience for everyone concerned.

Buyitinbamboo · 27/09/2019 02:47

I think it's a good idea and I've got a young child and another on the way. It's not ok to leave your child unattended if you're flying alone with them so I wouldn't be worried about that risk.

sashh · 27/09/2019 04:41

Lol, perfecttiming.

I've just had an email from a friend who is waiting to get on a flight at Narita airport.

He's just said there is a baby and it is crying already.

thatmustbenigelwiththebrie · 27/09/2019 04:48

You sound very paranoid op. Your child will be fine on a plane.

NoLeopard · 27/09/2019 04:54

Let's face it, everybody on a plane apart from yourself is bloody annoying. Even hearing other people laugh or talk loudly makes me want to scream. The sooner they invent instant teleportation the better.

LucyC16 · 27/09/2019 05:05

As a Mum first and foremost I would never leave my dc alone for a second on an airplane.

As a woman travelling without ds soon I would love to be able to pick a seat no where near someone else’s child. Hopefully catch a few much needed zzzzzz’s

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 27/09/2019 05:18

I would not leave DD by herself on a plane. Especially not while she was a baby! Not because I was worried about paedophiles but because I would be concerned she’d cry and I wasn’t there to placate her.

I’ve flown with DD twice (age 3 and age 5). Both times the people around us have told us how well behaved she was. We came prepared with a bag full of new/favourite toys to produce if she looked like she was getting bored. Just small bits and pieces like a colouring book, stickers, little pots of play dough...

Runbikeswim · 27/09/2019 05:24

My son has ASD and crying babies cause him to meltdown- this would be a godsend for me

nononever · 27/09/2019 05:25

YABU. Personally I think it's a great idea.