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AIBU to never want to use this airline?

82 replies

Honeybee85 · 27/09/2019 01:39

www.bbc.com/news/business-49836599

I appreciate that sitting next to a stranger’s baby or toddler on a long flight is not something most people would choose. But what about all the adults causing nuisance on a plane, drunk people, rude people, smelly people? I have experienced more middle aged men then babies being a source of annoyance during flights.

Also, as a mum of a young baby I would be afraid this kind of information might attract the wrong kind of people with bad intentions deliberately booking a seat next to my child.

OP posts:
berlinbabylon · 27/09/2019 12:22

Also, as a mum of a young baby I would be afraid this kind of information might attract the wrong kind of people with bad intentions deliberately booking a seat next to my child Not sure what you think they can do when you are next to your child. I would always sit between someone and my child anyway - not just on a plane but in cinemas etc.

Bloomburger · 27/09/2019 12:23

The plane paedophile 🙄

Funghi · 27/09/2019 12:24

They do say criminals hide in plane sight.

JollyAndBright · 27/09/2019 12:26

Japan Airlines seems to say: ‘yes, little children are a nuisance that you should avoid’.

And they would be exactly right.
I would happily pay extra to sit far away from children on a flight.

Maybe even my own. 😂

subjecttoavailability · 27/09/2019 12:29

I think it's a good idea - baby haters can choose to sit further so you know people sitting next to you are more tolerant to the noise.

swingofthings · 27/09/2019 12:38

The world doesn't revolve around parents with young kids. There are many people with no kids yet, kids who have grown or who never have kids.

They are entitled to have a life that doesn't involve constantly having to tolerate young kids. It's nice that one airlines recognises this and offer an option. This would away us booking with them for this reason even if a bit dearer.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 27/09/2019 12:39

"baby haters"

FFS.

Just because people aren't filled with delirious joy at the idea of:

  1. Flying in economy
  2. Long Haul
  3. Next to a passenger who is very likely to be noisy and disruptive (though no fault of their own)
  • doesn't mean they "hate" babies!
    Even parents on this thread are agreeing that flying with young kids isn't nirvana and I'm pretty sure they like their own children quite a lot.
TheLetterOfTheLawTheLetter · 27/09/2019 12:45

As a parent of a toddler I would welcome this! I would be happy to know that the person sitting next to me had a fair chance avoid us. It would make me feel less guilty for the inevitable disruption.

I do think it's slightly flawed as children don't stop being annoying at 2, but it's a start Grin

Some people are so over sensitive.. I wont even comment on the paedophile angle. Its people like you that inspired brass eye, OP

MoodyBitch · 27/09/2019 12:46

Baby haters? 😂
I didn't want my own kids screaming down my lug hole, so forgive me if I'm not mad keen on the idea of someone else's doing it too.

IAmALazyArse · 27/09/2019 12:47

They do say criminals hide in plane sight.
😂

plunkplunkfizz · 27/09/2019 12:48

Its a great idea, and even better if they could put up a sound proof screen!!!

That’s an outrageous suggestion. Everyone knows they’d be better out on the wing getting all the good fresh air like Scandinavian babies. Plus paedos hate the outdoors so double win!

Jellybeansincognito · 27/09/2019 12:49

Why such negativity towards the airline? A flight to japan is fairly expensive and almost 12 hours long- I wouldn’t want to be seated by an under 2 unless it was my own and even then it wouldn’t be enjoyable at all.

MoodyBitch · 27/09/2019 12:52

They would be better packing kids in the hold with the rest of the luggage.

TheCanterburyWhales · 27/09/2019 12:58

OP wins paedo bingo of the millennium with this one

Bit disgruntled though that I flew about eleventy billion times with dd when she was tiny and I fucking forgot to froth about the great paedo menace! Chuh

JassyRadlett · 27/09/2019 12:58

I see it as quite a good way to insulate my (pretty well behaved and quiet on flights thankfully) kids from huffy judgemental twats, as well as from those who just quite reasonably prefer to sit elsewhere and are happy to pay to do so.

I was gutted recently - long haul flight with husband and kids on a 3-3-3 plane. FINALLY my turn to sit separately from my kids. Got someone else’s 4-year-old next to me.

I kept looking longingly at my pair who were being bloody angels (bit of food, a film, colouring in, then both fell asleep) and DH looking serene and reading his book, while the kid next to me played with him mum’s phone, volume on, because he didn’t like the headphones he had (I eventually got him a kids’ set from flight crew) and spilling his drink repeatedly. His mum was headphones in, watching her film, pausing only to refill his drink so I could try to juggle it away from my lap some more.

Not all kids on planes are created equal, and not all parents are either. You don’t know what kind you’re going to get so it’s ok by me if you want to avoid them.

AnchorDownDeepBreath · 27/09/2019 13:01

Japan Airlines seems to say: ‘yes, little children are a nuisance that you should avoid’.

Well, if you're not flying with one, they are, really... Surely it's better to give people the option of avoiding babies/small children if they are very intolerant to them, rather than leaving it to chance and having a potentially very tense flight?

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 27/09/2019 13:02

I kept looking longingly at my pair who were being bloody angels (bit of food, a film, colouring in, then both fell asleep) and DH looking serene and reading his book, while the kid next to me played with him mum’s phone, volume on, because he didn’t like the headphones he had (I eventually got him a kids’ set from flight crew) and spilling his drink repeatedly. His mum was headphones in, watching her film, pausing only to refill his drink so I could try to juggle it away from my lap some more.

Why on earth didn't you speak to the mum about dealing with her own child's behaviour, rather than just enabling it?

(Or at the very least ask your husband to swap seats for a while!)

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 27/09/2019 13:04

So we've had the "paedo flyers" and "baby haters".
All we need now is "these children could be your future pilot!" and the PFB bingo card is complete!

Grin
SoupDragon · 27/09/2019 13:10

I would be afraid this kind of information might attract the wrong kind of people with bad intentions deliberately booking a seat next to my child.

Oh, dear lord 🤦🏻‍♀️

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 27/09/2019 13:30

Somehow I don't think OP is coming back. Maybe's she's strategising in case a paedo stands next to them in Tesco, and lord knows what might happen!

Wink
Fluffsmum · 27/09/2019 14:40

This will make opportunistic abuse easier.

There have been stories recently of women being sexually assaulted by their seat neighbour, and of men masturbating next to them. There have also been stories that these women have been unable to move seats due to full planes etc.

Excited101 · 27/09/2019 14:42

Well I think it’s great! I work with children and i enjoy their company but there’s no way I want to be near any of them for a flight, not a hope in hell. It should be obligatory to state where they are.

BadLad · 27/09/2019 14:55

Also, as a mum of a young baby I would be afraid this kind of information might attract the wrong kind of people with bad intentions deliberately booking a seat next to my child.

It's a flight to Japan. Those people can probably wait till they get there for their enjo kousai

KatherineJaneway · 27/09/2019 14:57

This is a brilliant idea!

bakedbeanzontoast · 27/09/2019 14:59

I think it's a wonderful idea personally. It gives people the option of not having to sit near potential screaming kids. It's nice to have the option although I know that doesn't stop noisy adults 😬