Boris Johnson dismisses female MPs fears about death threats as humbug.

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AIBU to think this is not what a PM should be doing.

Paula Sheriff asked him to tone down his language. The tempers in the debate are stoking the flames and the PM's use of language such as 'surrender' are adding to it.

She then explains the death threats she and other MPs on all sides have been getting . The abuse.

His reply. 'Humbug'.

If you still want to support Johnson after all this, ask yourself if you support such a response

09:37Cinammoncake
Agree, was about to post the exact same message myself.

I’ve been involved in situations with the child of an MP who has death threats against his family.

Risk assessments for school trips were carried out to the nth degree. We needed to ensure we could get the child safe if there was a risk. We’ve been on lockdown when an active threat was made.

Nothing justifies death threats against people/families doing their job.

How easy for BJ to dismiss concerns with his security detail.

I’m watching Paula Sheriff on Victoria Derbyshire. She is talking about her situation and how BJ is “inciting hatred towards mps”

@CuriousaboutSamphire
What a horrible future you’re painting for this country. 😞 you could be right.

In case anyone's forgotten, it's only a few months since a far-right extremist was jailed for planning to murder Rosie Cooper MP.

Jack Renshaw: MP death plot neo-Nazi jailed for life
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-48306380

A judge at the Old Bailey said Renshaw, who earlier admitted preparing an act of terrorism, wanted to "replicate" the murder of Jo Cox.

Renshaw made a Nazi salute towards supporters as he was led to the cells from the dock.

He pleaded guilty on the first day of his trial to buying a machete to kill the West Lancashire MP and making threats to kill police officer Det Con Victoria Henderson.

The problem is much much deeper than Boris.
John McDonell repeated the “Lynch the bastard” comment about Ester McVey. Cameron has his “calm down dear” moment.

There is a deep dislike of women in politics from men on all sides of the political spectrum.

The absolute minimum we should expect from Johnson is that he makes a clear statement that threats and acts of violence to MPs and their families are unacceptable and he would support the the police and courts to act in a swift and decisive way when threats are issued or attacks are made.

@LightsInOtherPeoplesHouses I meant within the context of the heightened emotional speeches and twisting the reality. Not that his actions, lack of understanding is in anyway laudable

I just didn’t think she’d made the point very well and therefore didn’t understand where she was coming from.

Well, no wonder. I realise now that the clip in the news was edited at “I’m sick off it” and omitted the rest of what she said, which left no doubt about what the issue was.

There is a key difference in how some people are interpreting the 'Humbug' remark.

A) Some people are interpreting it as dismissing MPs fears about death threats.

B) Some people are interpreting it as dismissing the idea that using words like 'surrender' causes those death threats to be made.

There's a big difference!

Livelovebehappy There is a lot of anti MP sentiment about at the moment. A lot of MPs are currently using parliament as their play pen to follow their own agenda instead of focusing of what the people have voted for. Not condoning the death threats btw, but a lot of MPs are contributing to the escalating unrest in the U.K.

This.

Our parliament has descended into a bunch of schoolchildren scoring points off each other by playing "she said, he said" games. While we are in the midst of the biggest constitutional crisis in British history for 400 years, one which is already harming our economy and international standing.

I see Johnson hasn't even turned up to Parliament today and has sent a junior minister to deal with the debate on language in the House.

Cowardly and disrespectful.

@MrsBethel that does seem to be a divide and I seem to be stood astride it, leaning towards the latter, I think...

There are a few threads/posts about his choice of words, describing them as incendiary - which I think should be inflammatory but I doubt the posters will see the hypocrisy in their choice, or that all sides of the house were using equally inflammatory comments for some hours before he arrived!

@ilovesooty do we know where he is, what he is doing?

I've since been told that he's appearing at the 1922 Committee to press for a snap GE. Rees - Mogg has made it though now. No sign still of Johnson.

They were all a disgrace with the goady shouting and dreadful behaviour on all sides. I thought they were desperate to get back so they could discuss important issues. It was just an excuse for a slanging match that should have been halted and they all got sent out.

Thanks ILS

Yes they just wanted a fight. What a waste of time.

t was just an excuse for a slanging match that should have been halted and they all got sent out

Did you watch the debate?

I watched all of it. Boris Johnson set the atmosphere at the start. And then he double downed with his comments about the 'surrender' bill - and dismissed the worries of the many MPs, including one on his side, who was worried about the tone of the debate.

And considering the prorogation decision was not supposed to be about Brexit, Johnson sure as hell made it about Brexit.

And for people who know about how Parliament works - especially in the run up to Brexit day - it is obvious that 5 weeks is not a typical delay (especially since they would not have voted for conference recess) - and he refused to apologise.

Some of the news reporters and interviewers are just as bad with their goady comments, favouritism, inability to let people speak, constant interruptions and sneers. These are all people we were bought up to respect, it's becoming a farce.

I watched all of it. Boris Johnson set the atmosphere at the start. But he wasn't there at the start! They started without him, whilst he was still in America!

@HappyHammy did you see Andrew Neil yesteday. BBC2... hectoring, sneering! At least he was fairly even handed with his obvious contempt!

But he wasn't there at the start! They started without him, whilst he was still in America

He was there at the start of the debate.

The debate was:
A statement by the Prime Minister on yesterday's Supreme Court verdict
It started at 1830

hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-09-25/debates/AD2A07E5-9741-4EBA-997A-97776F80AA38/PrimeMinisterSUpdate

He was there at the start of the debate. I get that, not being daft. But the tone was set prior to that! Hours and hours of it!

Or are you defending those ministers whose language was equally hostile, ill thought out and incendiary ?

Serioulsy, sniping at BJ without acknowledging the equally shite behaviour from all other parties is blinkered. Either they all grwo up or nothing gets done.. if there is actually anything that can be done!

Technically, it wasn't a debate. It was a statement, followed by lots of responses to that statement, with someone making a point and the PM responding.

Untechnically it has all being a shameful abrogation of responsibilityby all of them!

I get that, not being daft. But the tone was set prior to that! Hours and hours of it

So when you tried to pick me up on something, you were actually wrong.

I was referring to the tone that Johnson set when he came out. It's obvious what he is trying to do and it's dangerous.