Abolishing private schools - how would it work in practice?

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Labour has voted to abolish private schools:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-public-private-school-abolish-eton-vote-conference-corbyn-education-policy-a9115766.html

Whether you agree with this or not, I don’t understand how the logistics would work. Would private schools suddenly cease to exist from say, summer 2023, with all pupils forced to find a place at the local state school for the autumn term onwards? What would happen to the buildings and facilities - would they remain as state schools or be sold off to developers for example?

Oh sorry! Уравниловка , got it wrong first time, but do look it up.

It wouldn’t work not would bankrupt the already stretched education system to take on the kids who won’t go to private because of increased fees.

Honestly I actually laughed when I originally saw this was their plan. I seriously am starting to believe they just sit and make up the most random shite that can never happen in an attempt to get votes. It's mind boggling.

This is hot on the heels of their plans to force landlords to sell their properties at reduced rates to long term renters (aye, because landlords will just sit, watching and wait for the laws to be passed and not give notice to their tenants).

It's one loony thing after the other. It's got to the level it's so daft it's funny.

I’d like to know how he thinks it would work at sixth form level. There are far less colleges than there are schools, does he think the average towns church school sixth form and the two nearest local colleges are suddenly going to absorb a few hundred extra pupils between them?

Or at 16 will dc be deployed to the relevant departments they have been assigned to for the good of Mother England?

Corbyn and his comrades seriously need to fuck off so Labour can be a viable vote alternative to the tories.

And if they can come for the schools, what's to stop them from seizing other private assets like our house?

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/21/homes-left-empty-six-months-could-seized-councils-radical-plans/

Remember the claim that people with gardens would pay more rates, I wonder if that will come about

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1136180/jeremy-corbyn-garden-tax-labour-party-news-disastrous-property-market-families-pensioners

PanGalactic I'd like to know what evidence you have to make your claims about the so-called "elite" schools whose pupils look down on other schools as "scum".
I don't recognise your description of Winchester or Charterhouse and I have personal experience of staff and pupils from both schools.

I can see the removal of charitable status is quite easy to do. Fees could then theoretically have 20% VAT added which would in effect lead to several closing down. Not sure about

'redistributing their endowments, investments and properties to the state sector.' or how it could practically be accomplished. Is it linked to the removal of charitable status?

Expect to hear something about private healthcare this week as well

www.hsj.co.uk/free-for-non-subscribers/exclusive-labour-to-nationalise-gps-and-private-healthcare/7024776.article

Surely people with money would still find a way to educate their children outside of the state system if that is what they want.

Well I cannot see us bumping into the Royals on the school run anytime soon.

From Justasking's link

In the discussion document, Mr McDonnell argued: “Nationalisation of healthcare providers such as Virgin, Care UK and BMI would be very popular with Labour voters. It would also provide value for money – as we would argue that in many cases the price paid for these businesses need only cover the buildings and other capital assets.

JESUS

I don’t see the problem with privet education my dd has just started nusery that is attached to a very well known privet school where she will attend next year and will be privately educated until she leaves school. Me and my dh are lucky to both have high paying jobs (his is still double mine). He was privately educated and I see all the benefits this gave him (better grades, connections I could never have got from my state school) so we decided to give our daughter those benefits aswell as we can afford to.
What I don’t understand is why is it anyone’s business how I educate my child? Will I not be allowed privet healthcare soon because that’s what the government decides?
I would love to know who is going to pay for all the children who are in privet education to be state educated? Where will the money be taken away from? The NHS? Carehomes? Pensions? More taxes?
Why force children away from privet education and into already full and underfunded state schools?
This whole idea is ludicrous!

*Private not quite sure why my phone changed that

It's really not just people who privately educate their children who should be running scared, it's anyone with any aspiration.

Did I see Diane Abbott applauding this?

Didn’t she send her own so to a private school?

Didn’t she send her own so to a private school?

Yes, but didn't you know, West Indian mothers go to the wall for their children.- it's different for her.

jewel broadly speaking the buildings and assets belong to the charity, so yes, very much tied in.

chickeny yes. I’d like to throw fish at her and see if she can balance a ball on her nose too. Similar to Shami Chakrabati, her son attends a selective independent but she was very vocal in her objections to selective education. Very much that some are more equal than others.

It's not a policy I'd support but I'm loving the frothing at the idea that the children of the elite might have to lower themselves to have the same educational opportunities as the vast majority of the nation's children. Yes, that's be such a tragedy. Imagine if the had to experience a level playing field in the job market as well, the horror!

I have not seen anyone frothing about that?

It’s not just parents who privately educate their kids who should be scared, but parents who send their kids to state schools.

Closing down private schools will create a massive burden on the state system which is already in crisis.

Could Corbyn please look into fixing the state system first before adding another few hundred thousand kids into the mix?

YABU - clearly it would never happen. Don't worry your wonderful angels won't have to associate with us plebs

There's no frothing because it would never happen.

Will Labour stop university tuition fees also (university is now technically private education)?

demelza this isn't about precious angels and plebs. Though I wonder where you would put the many children of Labour luminaries who send their children to private schools, are they precious angels or are they plebs?

Closure of private schools will create a huge pressure on the already oversubscribed state system.

@Trewser, that was a manifesto promise, and to abolish all student debt.

They are also going to now educate 600K more children in the state sector (and purchase those assets).

Rumour is they will do the same for private healthcare.

The issue is who is going to pay for all this?