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AIBU to ask them to play anything but jazz?

56 replies

NameChangedForTheDay · 22/09/2019 16:08

Light-hearted. I'm in an airport lounge. It's a newly opened one. Not very busy, only 4-5 other tables being used.

They are piping music into the place and it's proper squealing jazz, with wailing out of time saxophones and pianos that sound like they're being played by a toddler and a chimp simultaneously. It's utter noise!

Shall I ask them to change the record? 😂

I went to the loos after 45 and thought I'd get respite. Nope it's piped into there too, I can't even have a piss in peace.

How does anyone enjoy jazz? It's lost on me.

OP posts:
Drabarni · 22/09/2019 18:15

Please, Jazz musician and Kenny G can not be uttered in the same sentence, apart from you're having a laugh if you consider KG a jazz musician Grin

Kitty, both my dh and dd are Jazz musicians and play Baritone Sax amongst the others , they love TM, I bet you know what I'm referring to.

How can anyone say they don't like a whole genre?
Oh, and talk about being moved, listen to Billy Holiday's "Strange fruit"
Miles Davis and Charlie Parker. I defy anyone to sit still through Sonny Rollins "Don't stop the carnival"

Indecisivelurcher · 22/09/2019 18:21

Totally work you op, I've left restaurants before. Its the syncopated rhythm. Orrible!

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 22/09/2019 18:30

I always remember a comment that Jimmy Carr once made on Catsdown. It was something like this:

"Music is wonderful - there are so many different varieties that there's something to suit every music-lover's taste. And, for those people who don't like music.... there's jazz!"

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 22/09/2019 18:33

Whatever is with scat jazz?! At least they have the good grace to give it an accurately descriptive name Grin

Shoutymomma · 22/09/2019 18:37

sadeyedladyofthelowlands63
Kenny G is to jazz what my 8yo mother is to grindcore.

Suplexqueen · 22/09/2019 18:55

I was going to go to study jazz theory. I love it it's my life. There's nu jazz, lo fi jazz and alot of different stuff. Sounds like it was quite experimental. Jazz was more our grandparents forte. It's skipped a generation or two but has made a comeback recently. What music do you prefer?

Motherinlawsdung · 22/09/2019 18:58

Jazz is great. Use this an opportunity to discover why.

Shoutymomma · 22/09/2019 19:13

8yo?? 80 year old.😆😆

Drabarni · 22/09/2019 19:49

Shoutymomma

I understood you Grin
Who is your favourite?

In fairness even from the pov of a Jazz fan I've heard some things I find awful.
I even know how clever it is to be able to make those sounds, the years of study and practice.
If it isn't pleasing to the ears it doesn't matter how clever it is.
So if it sounds out of tune, because this is good, if it swings, if it sounds good then what does it matter.

StCharlotte · 22/09/2019 20:00

I loathe the type of jazz that sounds like all the musicians are playing different tunes at different tempos. It's genuinely unpleasant to hear but obviously someone must like it.

It also infuriates me when you suddenly catch a recognisable tune but a couple of bars later... nope, gone.

Drabarni · 22/09/2019 20:16

StCharlotte

Tbh, if they were truthful many audiences do too. There's nothing like this for killing the mood unless .... You are a fan who sort of understands what they're doing in that music. I had a knowledge up to grade 8 but that is only just starting on what is actually played. Years of unlearning what they have been taught apparently. Then starting proper after years of experience.
They work for hours on their sound, and don't have other jobs.

It also infuriates me when you suddenly catch a recognisable tune but a couple of bars later... nope, gone.

These are just quotes of other songs that fit the chord changes at that time. If it's something I like I tell them after and sometimes suggest others I'd like to hear.

I make a mean bacon butty with ketchup and huge mugs of tea, they like to keep me happy Grin

tabulahrasa · 22/09/2019 20:21

“How can anyone say they don't like a whole genre?“

If they don’t like it?

There’s more than one genre of music I don’t like tbh.

Drabarni · 22/09/2019 20:25

tabulahrasa

I used to argue this about Country and Western, couldn't stand it. Then many years ago was in bathe when Dolly Parton came on with "I will always love you" It was head and shoulders above the WH version and that was brilliant.
I've since heard a couple more I like, but I used to think I hated it all. My dh refuses to like folk as a Jazzer, I'm determined to find something he likes.

Drabarni · 22/09/2019 20:26

Came on - the radio.

MonstranceClock · 22/09/2019 20:29

Come and be a soldier in my jazz war OP! One I started with Slipknot 😂

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3671618-Passive-aggressive-jazz-war

Jolonglegs · 22/09/2019 20:29

Saying you hate jazz is like saying you hate classical music. Surely both genres are so broad that they encompass lots of different types. Acker Bilk is a long way from Miles Davis, and what about Abdullah Ibrahim.
Music is too important to use as wall paper. The problem nowadays is that people want music in the background all the time, and can't abide quiet.

ageingdisgracefully · 22/09/2019 20:36

I love jazz. It's not to everyone's taste bit it's heaps better than the musak I seem to hear piped all over the place.

I think what you've heard is Bebop, @OP. Smile.

WoollyMummoth · 22/09/2019 20:36

I used to work in a bookshop many years ago and they played jazz every Sunday. Christ I hated those Sunday shifts with a passion.

PlinkPlink · 22/09/2019 20:37

Sounds like improvisatory jazz 🙈🙈 not my type either... along with Bebop. Too fast paced and random for my ears and heart to follow.

I love Blues, swing and certain types of jazz but I find the more experimental it is, the more I loathe it.

Whattheother2catsprefer · 22/09/2019 20:41

Go to the bar say "Hi I'm Johnny and Johnny hates jazz"

Drabarni · 22/09/2019 20:44

I don't think it was described like bebop but I could be wrong.
There is a strong element of melody in Bebop even if it is only heard through the harmony, it's still there. Unlike other forms where you know the song from the title and you don't hear it in harmony or melody.

coffeeagogo · 22/09/2019 20:51

I had to go for an MRI and the technician said to me ' oh we'll play so relaxing music for you whilst you are in there' they played fucking jazz - the type of jazz that is so frenetic it makes you feel like you are having electric shocks - I was literally twitching with the stress of listening to it. I think it is the most divisive music genre....

StCharlotte · 22/09/2019 21:18

Years of unlearning what they have been taught apparently. Then starting proper after years of experience.
They work for hours on their sound, and don't have other jobs.

I can believe it. Whilst I don't enjoy it, I've always appreciated that it must take some special skills and talent.

PierreBezukov · 22/09/2019 21:28

YABU.

Jazz is great. It's a very sophisticated musically very clever. I suppose it's an acquired taste. Try Miles Davis 'Kind of blue'. You might to listen to it a lot of times before it grows on you.

There is an infinite variety of jazz, from softer kinds to more hardcore.

Shakennotshook · 22/09/2019 21:30

Are you in the new glasgow lounge??