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Shouting by nursery staff

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Nabokova · 20/09/2019 22:57

Hello,
I have witnessed a strange behaviour at the nursery, where they shout uncontrollably at children, I was there working only two weeks but it was impossible and very stressful to see it. I am a mother of two and I am shocked to see those poor children being abused like this. It left me traumatised. They nursery manager is encouraging her staff to do it and covering the abuse up. I fell ill just after 5 days being there. Absolutely disgusting behaviour by the manager and staff. I was wandering if any of you have experienced similar concerns.

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Fookinwot · 20/09/2019 22:59

Have you reported this to Ofsted?

Wildorchidz · 20/09/2019 23:01

Presumably you have reported this abuse? Or told the parents ?

Thehop · 20/09/2019 23:02

Report to OFSTED immediately

This is hideous and gives us all a bad name.

HappyBumbleBee · 20/09/2019 23:05

Report if you haven't already!

Okmama · 21/09/2019 00:30

😩 this is why I’m having such a hard time finding a nursery for my 2yo. I just can’t trust practical strangers with the most precious thing to me. PLEASE report this, for the poor children’s & their parents sakes!

Nabokova · 21/09/2019 11:17

I did report that to the Inspectorate who went there and the staff denies any wrongdoing including taking children out of playroom and taking them to the manager, where the children will get told off, I was shocked to see it on my first day of work

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Nabokova · 21/09/2019 11:23

The manager is completely cover up the abuse, she is reassuring her staff that any complains they get she will denied. I don’t understand why they have to work like this, shouting and screaming at those 2/3 years old. Children were left in tears most of the time after being told off in this manner. When I mentioned this to the manager she simply brushed it under the carpet. Denies denies denies. Unbelievable.

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Wildorchidz · 21/09/2019 13:10

Have you told parents?

Nabokova · 21/09/2019 14:02

I understand that I was not allowed to speak to the parents about it. I have signed some sort of paper which says that nobody should know what’s going on there. I was only there for 2.5 weeks, they were humiliating me by shouting at me too at front of the children. The Care Inspectorate went there because I complained and she didn’t not find any wrongdoings. So it’s hopeless situation really. I am amazed at the behavior of the manager, deputy manager and her staff. It’s frightening me.

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missyB1 · 21/09/2019 14:06

It’s easy to cover something like this up though. They are hardly going to shout at the kids in front of the the inspectors.
Is there anyway you can post anonymously on a local forum or leave a review? You could also try reporting to your local safeguarding board, there will be one for your area.

Nabokova · 21/09/2019 14:08

Okmama I know, right. It’s frightening me, they pull out smiles at front of the parents but I was there for 2.5 weeks, I fell ill, the stress level and nastiness by manager and child abuse left me traumatised. When I complained to the manager she brushed everything under the carpet. And instead I was harassed by her and her staff. I feel hopeless. Because the staff is covering each other’s wrongdoings up, the manager is encouraging them to do it. So I don’t have a real evidence of the abuse. But I left traumatised by knowing the truth.

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Itsreallymehonest · 21/09/2019 14:12

Can you anonymously tip off your local paper, perhaps they would be willing to investigate?

Justyou · 21/09/2019 14:12

I’ve unfortunately been in the same situation, it’s absolutely horrific when the staff and manager cover for each other and act so fake in front of ofsted and parents.
You end up pushed out for saying it’s wrong and can make the parents aware yourself.
Unfortunately some still use it as they are so good at putting a front on.

Nabokova · 21/09/2019 14:14

missyB1 well, I have witnessed the abuse and I have to live with this for the rest of my life. Why would they bring children to the manager room and telling them off, it was my first day of work, they allow children to scratch each other’s faces and then take them to the manager to get shouted to them. As a mother of two I thought what a strange things to do. Is this how they work? People who are qualified etc?!. Illogical to me and frightening because when I mentioned this they can’t remember that! Shocking!

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Nabokova · 21/09/2019 14:17

Justyou Absolutely, but I don’t understand why work like this? I mean screaming uncontrollably I felt ill after being at that room. And those are called qualified professionals?

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missyB1 · 21/09/2019 14:19

OP yes I know you’ve witnessed it I wasn’t doubting you, I’m saying that’s it’s very hard to prove without someone going undercover and filming it. But you can report this as a safeguarding issue because it is abuse. OFSTED might not have been useful but like I said try the safeguarding board in your area (google how to find them). And find a way to get the message out to local parents.

LucyAutumn · 21/09/2019 14:20

I'm sorry OP but I think you need to try some new avenues to get this abuse stopped. If you feel as traumatised as you say you do, imagine how badly it's going to affect the poor vulnerable little ones entrusted into the care of these monsters.

Nabokova · 21/09/2019 15:07

LucyAutumn The Care Inspectorate are the highest authority in Scotland as I understood and if they could not find any evidence than nobody can. It’s crazy!

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LucyAutumn · 21/09/2019 16:40
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Nabokova · 21/09/2019 17:34

MissyB1 it’s frightening really, I could never imagine how someone who is in charge of the child’s nursery could literally cover the abuse up. The manager told me- Oh, the child is fine. She is not harm in anyway. I felt hopeless. The member of the staff witnessed it too but she did not report it. It’s obvious for me that the nursery is a cash cow for this people. It’s not an educational facility. The Children think that it’s normal situation when they get verbally abuse by the staff. One of the staff was shaking a child and we all seen it, but only me who mentioned it. I just could not coop to work there. Nobody reports any abuse just me.

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Wildorchidz · 21/09/2019 18:20

I’d say it to the parents. I could not know about that abuse and not tell them.

Pamplemousecat · 21/09/2019 19:25

Tell the parents- could a parent drop in unannounced during the day?

Nabokova · 21/09/2019 20:19

Pamplemousecat well, situations like this happens early morning randomly or during the day. I don’t work there anymore, but how could someone run the nursery like this and allow staff to behave like this it’s out of my mind. I am still in shock, is this even legal? Or it’s a crime? they hold qualifications and know their possibilities, so it’s not a crime in their eyes.

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Nabokova · 21/09/2019 20:26

Wildorchidz or when they serve food they would throw the crumpets to children on the table like it’s a wild animal or something. Or rubbing the child faces that hard that the child running away in tears and loud cry. Shocking. It was 2.5 weeks of hell. The Care Inspectorate was there and she couldn’t get any proof. So it’s a hopeless situation really. Scary people. I am afraid of those people who managing it. If I don’t have a physical video of the abuse which they know I can not get it, that’s mean there is no case.

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intermittentfasting · 21/09/2019 20:31

As others have said, report it to a local newspaper.

Report the shaking and roughly rubbing face to social services.

I mean ffs talking about it on here won't help.