Shouting by nursery staff

[Nabokova]

Hello,
I have witnessed a strange behaviour at the nursery, where they shout uncontrollably at children, I was there working only two weeks but it was impossible and very stressful to see it. I am a mother of two and I am shocked to see those poor children being abused like this. It left me traumatised. They nursery manager is encouraging her staff to do it and covering the abuse up. I fell ill just after 5 days being there. Absolutely disgusting behaviour by the manager and staff. I was wandering if any of you have experienced similar concerns.

Morning, everyone. Just letting you know we've checked things out here and are happy to put the thread back up now.

Why can't you tell the parents?

Sounds appalling.
Could you ask a friend to go to the Nursery undercover...maybe, as a potential parent or employee?

Intermittentfasting I have done, I have reported it to the Care Inspectorater and she is along for a physical evidence which I don’t have. The manager is covering all up and the staff does anything they want and she covers up. So if they denied the complaints than I can’t proof anything they are all afraid to loose their jobs.

Naughty1205 I can not do that,as I understood because I signed something that says anything I saw at their nursery should be strictly confidential. So basically if I have seen the abuse than I cannot speak to anyone about it. Shocking.

Any way you can get back there to work and get some video evidence? Or know anyone who can? Just for one day?

That's so awful, those poor children. Probably not the most practical advice but if that were me I'd report to anyone and everyone that would listen, the police, social services, safeguarding... All of them, there must be some way of getting people to sort this awful place out 🙁

If they are screaming at the kids, wouldn't it be heard by people out in the street?
That place needs 'bugging'. Tiny microphone, doesn't have to be video.
Even a directional microphone would be useful.
If only I was younger, I'd so be a spy worker and spill the beans on badly run nurseries.

Whatever you signed to not report anything you saw can't be legal. If anything, they should make people sign documents to state that they are duty bound to report any and all safeguarding concerns. I can't imagine that piece of paper you signed would in reality stop you from telling people about the abuse you've seen. So don't let that hold you back.

Can you go to Police? If you have genuinely witnessed abuse I would. I assume any NDA you signed wouldn't matter then

Go to the media. You need to do everything in your power to stop those children from being abused. They can't do anything themselves, but YOU can!! Please help them!!

You need to report this to your LSCB at the very earliest opportunity

You need to act fast OP.
This is very damamging and the longer you wait the more damage will be done to very young children.
Stop making excuses and report it.

God OP this is horrible to read.

It's dramatic but can you go to the press?

You can speak to the Ombudsman too - www.spso.org.uk/how-to-complain-about-public-service

I wouldn't care what I've signed. I'd be waiting outside to tell the parents.
What if God forbid something bad happened and you hadnt said anything because of the paper you signed.
Id splat it on SM too.
And hope the parents remove the children now.

Nothing you’ve signed prevents you going to the police.

Now you’ve left what’s to stop you plastering it all over Facebook IF it’s true

Personally I’m finding it all rather far fetched and embellished

What area of scotland is this nursery in? I would horrified if this was happening to my child

Here in Ireland we had similar and worse in a few creches, a programme on our main broadcaster sent in undercover workers, they were experienced and they recorded everything and it was aired on TV. There's been 2 programme afaik shown on this bad treatment the babies and children received. It caused uproar. Maybe if you approached your broadcaster / paper/ reporter etc they could pick it up and investigate.

Safeguarding trumps confidentiality ALWAYS! Contact your local safeguarding board and the police. And the NSPCC. Otherwise you are going to be left with this horrible feeling of responsibility. At least if you do that you can feel you have done everything possible. What a horrible situation to be in.

I heard about that programme in Ireland Lipz.
Can you remind me what it was called and where I can watch it please.

Video/tape them secretly.
Then post it to OFSTED and show the parents.
Those poor little ones.

Go to the press. BBC do under cover programmes

This sort of thing happened at the Nursery I worked in too. I reported it, someone else reported it and eventually they were shut down.

I couldn't trust any nursery where my child wasn't old enough to tell me what was going on there after that. My 3 year old would tell me if this happened at pre-school.

Those poor kids, my blood boils. I'd keep reporting - press, OFSTED, social services? and monitoring it OP.

I suspect you signed a confidentiality agreement so that means you can raise concerns but not discuss specifics. Contact whoever you need to about the shouting exactly as you have done here. As long as you're not saying harry smith scratched Martin Jones from whatever street then you'll be ok.

I heard about that programme in Ireland Lipz.
Can you remind me what it was called and where I can watch it please

It was on a programme called primetime on RTE the first one was in 2013 and and more recent one this year. The 2013 one was shocking, as was the 2nd but the 1st one, God the abuse. I'm not sure if it can be viewed outside Ireland, it's normally on RTE player. I checked YouTube but can't see it there, there's lots of written articles about then both