To think iPhones are no longer innovative?

[GabbyChalice400]

It seems like every "new" iPhone is just the same as the last, never really does anything new or different

Is it just me who thinks this?

I switched this week from iPhone to google pixel 3a. I love it so far.
To the person asking about FaceTiming -never done it and never felt the need to.

My phone is an Xiaomi android, £175 from John Lewis. 2 day battery life with normal usage. I love it! Great camera and very intuitive and user friendly.

Yawwn...

I remember when apple announced facetime like theyd invented the wheel... ignoring the fact video calling had been a thing for quite some time before that.

I use WhatsApp to video call my partner and son everyday when I'm at work. I used to have an iPhone but I much prefer my samsung.

Each to their own I say. But agree that they're not as "innovative" as they like to make out.

Phones generally are becoming more incremental and less revolutionary. They have to bring out something every year to hit their numbers but the reality is true innovation comes elsewhere, like the watch or the Samsung folding phone.

That said, my iPhone does the job it needs to do and does it well. However when I come to upgrade, it’s no longer a given it will be an iPhone... I just want something to feel “different” and the new ones always feel more of the same.

Never had an iphone. One of my friends going to give me an old one one dayshe said. Happy with my samson till then. Cost around £50 and on plusnet sim only for £7.99. Unlimited phone calls, text, huge data package. I can give one month notice. Really dont understand why people lock them shelves in for two years. I like my freedom and can just leave

I have an iPhone 5 because it fits in my hand. I moved temporarily to a Huawei but didn't like fingerprint was on the back not front and hated a droid interface on my car. Much prefer Apple car play

I swapped from an iPhone to a Samsung s9 last year. even though the camera is so much better on it I find it very confusing and not simple at all. they don't make them easy to use which I guess is where iPhone have the advantage

I use whatsapp when i video talk

I tried a Samsung. Never again.

I switched to a Huawei last year, after consistent problems with crap battery life and shockingly bad camera on the iPhone. All of my family etc still have iPhones but we use WhatsApp instead now for group chat and video calling. Not a big deal. Previously I stuck with apple as I had iTunes music subscription but using alexa meant I needed to switch to amazon music, so no reason to keep an iPhone. Think the bubble has burst. Its great having a camera that actually works!

YANBU. I’ve got a 7 and it wasn’t massively better than my 5. The cost isn’t justified. If Jobs were still alive they would have brought out something really innovative by now instead of just fiddling with cameras. Don’t think I’ll bother to get a new version when my 7 dies. I’ve been weaning myself off apple products.

We use Whatsapp and Duo to make video calls.

Fast you would just need a photo sharing/storage app to get that functionality back. If you can get Google Photos on an ipad, I find that really seamless and it's how I get my pictures onto the computer now.

I also dislike large phones so I specifically go looking for smaller ones. I have got the Sony Xperia ZX1 Compact at the moment and it's my favourite phone I've had in a while. Battery life is fantastic.

I’m kind of stuck with my iPhone now because I’ve now got an iPad and everything is synced between them through the cloud. Would just be too much of a hassle and a bit counter-productive to change it all again.

We use WhatsApp for that sort of thing, or messenger video. So many options other than facetime.

I have a Motorola G6, bought new for £170 something last year and still going strong.

They've not been innovative for years hence why I don't upgrade to the newest iPhones any more. The features of each new iPhone are completely predictable - iPhone 11 coming in Green was probably the most surprising feature of them all 😂

It seems that foldable phones are the next big change to phones. Hopefully Samsung will nail it this time.

Here we go again...

Use what suits you best, be it Android or iOS. I detest Android phones with a passion, others feel the same about iPhones. Whatever. But some of these posts are silly.

I'm not sure why people get so defensive about iPhones?

Because people say stupid things like they're phones for the elderly or people who can't cope with anything complicated. You can't take arguments like that seriously.

I always ask on these threads what it is that you can do with Android that you can't do with iOS and I never get an answer. I've been a heavy user of iPhones for 11 years and have yet to come across anything that's been a problem. But there is still this myth that there are things you can't do.

Have a preference by all means, your phone choice doesn't affect me, but don't talk nonsense.

I always ask on these threads what it is that you can do with Android that you can't do with iOS and I never get an answer.

Take a photo of amazing quality. I'm no Apple hater, I don't give a fuck what phone people choose, but the camera is nowhere near as good as what is available as on other phones. That doesn't matter to a lot of people, it does to me though. I take a lot of photos with my phone.

@Rockbird

You can't take arguments like that seriously. I always ask on these threads what it is that you can do with Android that you can't do with iOS and I never get an answer.

It's been years since I fiddled with an iPhone, so I am sure some of these answers are yes now, but some examples of my (entirely serious) feeling that they are frustratingly limited are:

• can you do multiple users yet?
• can you put an SD card in?
• can you side load apps?
• do they finally have file system access by usb?
• can you change default apps?
• is the home screen customisable?

There are advantages to apple's simplicity and uniformity, which is why I recommended one to my dad. A quick Google tells me that's a common perception amongst tech publications.

I think for most users needs they are very expensive for what you get.

iPhones are fine, I loved mine for years. But don't mistake good for 'worth the overinflated price tag'.

I always ask on these threads what it is that you can do with Android that you can't do with iOS and I never get an answer.

Someone's already mentioned it, but for a huge difference between Android and Apple devices is the ability of Android devices to host multiple users.

There was another thread in which I had to agree with the OP what a nightmare it was to set up an ipad for a child when (a) it was the only ipad I had access to and (b) Apple's software absolutely required certain aspects of controlling the child account to be done from a parent account which (c) could only perform certain operation using an ipad (wherease the Android and Windows equivalents would have allowed a web interface) and (d) it is not possible to have two accounts fully installed on the same ipad at the same time.

I literally had to go back and forth installing/reinstalling parent and child accounts on the same ipad several times before it was fully set up. Nothing like the same pain was required to perform the same tasks on Windows or Android.

what a nightmare it was to set up an ipad for a child

That was one of the examples I'd heard although I genuinely presumed it would not still be an issue.

Fire OS from Amazon is quite frustrating and feels like using an android device from 5 years ago, but even that handles multiple accounts.

None of the phones are that innovative really. We had a big jump forward at around iphone 5 and from then on it's just been tinkering around the edges. My iphone SE died recently (water damage) and I just bought a second hand iphone 6s to it replace for £90. I don't feel like any of the new phones have anything worth me paying more for.